I would get them corner balanced if it were available .. however, I don't think there is a shop around here that has scales (closest track is two countries away). I might just have Ruf-Bahrain do the install and tuning next time I am down there.

 

Yes it is one advantage to the Coil Overs, I had mine corner balanced when the alignment was done.

 

Where is the best place to order some Bilstein Damptronic? NorthVan are you in Van, BC?

 

Yes I am in North Vancouver, BC. I had my Damptronics Supplied and installed by Weissach. You can talk to Stuart and he will be able to help you out 604.738.3911

Welcome to the forum. Are you in Vancouver as well?

Ed

 

Thanks! I know Stu, I had my 996tt serviced with them before, their service was good but how are their aftermarket parts prices? The cars that they sell are quite up there, you know what I mean? I was thinking to buy from the US...

I'm Vancouver too.

 

I found that the pricing was the same in the US as Canada. You will also need to have them installed, there aren't too many shops that I would let work on my car with a project like this.

Give them a call and find out pricing.

 

any feedback on how the ride compares to the stock 997S suspension in stock and sport modes?

I'm primarily interested for the street, with occasional track duty.

 

They feel great IMO.

A bit firmer but also better damped, I prefer it but not everyone would. Handling difference is, of course, night and day.

 

I just installed mine this past weekend (actually not as difficult as I thought it would be). I drove the car briefly as I have yet to get it aligned and corner balanced. Before the Damptronics I had H&R springs. First thing I notices was that there was quite a bit less "bounce" in the ride. It is definitely a more controlled feel. It is a bit stiffer in normal mode and really stiff when PASM is engaged. From what I have experienced so far I am happy.

 

I agree 100% with the above, I also had H&R lowering springs and will NEVER do that again.

 

+1 on the Springs I had Techart (which I think is H&R) and I wouldn't trade them even for the extra savings in $. Best mod I have done.

 

I also agree! Lowering the car with just a springs kit is just for looks or car shows. Don't do it!

 

OK everyone. First of all, I have PSS9s for PASM. I've had this progression from street car to track car that has cost a ton. Also, I know that some of the guys on this thread, including Ron himself, are real track guys. So I say this because I don't mean any of my contrasting thoughts to be in any disrespect to other thoughts on the page.

So here they are. Again, I have PSS9s, not Damptronics. I wouldn't imagine there'd be a TON of difference, so I assume my experience is somewhat valid here. The PSS9s couldn't do it on the track for me. Now, I assume that I may be 'harder core' track than others, so you should consider that in this light. As one of you said, it's a steep, slippery slope when it comes to suspension modification. That's BECAUSE you see such a difference with each change. A good difference in my opinion. So, here's my opinion: the Bilsteins can't handle well immediate bumps in the track at speed. My right rear one just about gave out at Carolina Motorsports Park over the 'kink', which is taken about 135. They also have overheated on me, if that's the right term. I could run them so hard that they needed to cool. Really. This is, I assume, why upper end shocks have remote reservoirs. Also, whether I ran 19s or 20s on my car the Bilsteins were kind of uncomfortable on the street where I live (in a historic district and bumpy roads). So now Motons are being installed in the car. I need something more for the track. But again, my car is FAR from stock, and the Bilsteins were easily the weak link in the setup. I also have all control arms, the monoball solid mounts, everything, including GMG sways which kick ***. They offer a ton of adjustability, they are easy to change on the spot (as long as you have a jack and at least one extra jack stand to relieve pressure on the threads), and are so cheap (as are all sway bars relatively) that I really suggest you getting in touch with Fabryce. Also, why in the world would you not upgrade your sways? It is a rhetorical question, but it may be the biggest bang for your buck you can get for our cars. Lastly, I ask the same rhetorical question about corner balancing a car with coilovers. It's almost silly not to, unless you can't, like our friend in Kuwait. It simply MUST BE DONE if you ever want to see a track and know the true benefits of what you've bought.

Finally, I have my PSS9 for PASM setup I'd let go for cheap. PM me if you want them.

In the end, you asked about Bilsteins for the track. My opinion is that you don't take Bilsteins to the track any more than you take 20" wheels to a track. They work, but you will want more.

Peace out. Hope it helps.

Jared

 

Jared, Just to set the record straight Damptronics are PSS9/PSS10 that are controlled by the stock PASM computer, and have no manual adjustment other then the normal/sport button that switched the stock shocks from normal to sport.

I checked out your signature, holy **** you have a lot of mods. Where did you get your fuzzy dice, I need a set and can't find them anywhere.

Ed

 

Actually, I agree with most of what you wrote. If I were building a track car, I would definitely go the Moton (or maybe Penske) route, along with better sway bars (this is a given with ANY suspension upgrade IMO), adjustable towers, solid bushings, a highly aggressive track-focused alignment along with R compound tires, roll bar and 6 point harnesses, seat upgrade, etc. But a lot of people wouldn't enjoy that car on the street.

IMO the Bilstein/H&R sway bar/stock PS2 tires/moderate alignment approach is good for the 90%+ of us that do a few track days a year but need every day drivability. This setup will dramatically improve initial turn-in and moderate understeer while remaining forgiving.

I had a similar PSS9 based setup on my old 993 and I never had overheating issues, the tires and brakes gave up before the shocks, at least our here on the relatively dry and cool coast.


It's a compromise, but a pretty good one. Better than the dubs anyway.