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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 04:19 PM
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Pardon me , but I've posted this in the Tires/Wheels section, but I think I'll get more opinions here. I got a flat on my 200 mile old PS2 rear tire. I had it plugged. It seems to be holding 100%. Do I need to lay out the $$$$$ to replace it?? I don;t "track" the car or anything over 100 mph. Thanks!
 
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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Did the patch it from the inside or was it a plug in the hole type of repair?

A patch on the inside is the only way to repair a tire properly.
 
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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Provided the falt was not in the sidewall or close to the sidewall a plugged tire is good to go. Having plugged a tire I can tell you that the strength of the tire is not in rubber and not really affected by things like nails and plugs.

Some repair places say that they derate the the tire to S spec (113 MPH) after plugging them so you should be good for 100MPH
 
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Thanks for the responses. It was a plug and the guy did it without even removing the wheel from the car. I drove it over 200 miles and the tire pressure was exactly the same. Maybe I'll get the tire removed and patched from the inside. Of course the dealer wants to sell me a new PS2 for $600. They are simply the most money hungry machines I've ever encountered.
 
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I know people plug or patch tires but I replace them . I can't stand knowing that I am placing my health and valued car at any risk on a tire knowing in advance that there's a weak spot .

Yep --it's expensive .
Peace of mind is priceless too.
 
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The risk you face

is that the plug doesn't hold, air infiltrates between the inner and outer casing of the tire and waboom, you have a blow-out or worse.

So here's an eye opening story for you.

Until last week, I was firmly in the plug/patch camp. All the ******* that bought new tires could just shove off as far as I was concerned.

And then it happened to me. Had a nail in my rear tire, ran the car, without knowing, several miles at low psi because of the nail. Took the tire to my local shop, dude pulls the tire from the rim. At least 1 pound of inside tire liner falls out - all these little bits and pieces of tire.

If I had just plugged it, the interior would have stayed as is, with potential for high-speed catastrophe.

And no, I didn't mind paying tire rack $499 + $15 over night shipping to my local guy for a 19" PS2. charged me $20 for the install. $539 and we're back to normal.

Lesson learned - never plug without removing the tire to determine if inside of tire is okay and whether or not a patch may work. cheap insurance.
 

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The ONLY way to PROPERLY repair a tire...

Patch and Plug.
 
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Provided the fault was not in the sidewall or close to the sidewall, a patched and plugged tire is good to go.
Corrected and true.
 
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If you read the supplements to the owners manual they say to replace...safety is the concern here.....With my driving style I would have to replace the tire... but on the other hand if it were a vehicle just used for commuting, never seeing track time or even spirited driving and i knew the tire structure wasnt damaged besides the puncture i would consider repairing it.
 
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Having a tire removed from the wheel and properly patched from the inside does not appear to be a major expense and will satisfy most concerns about high speed operation.
 
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Hello everyone. Thanks for your replies. Of course the local Porsche dealer instantly wanted to sell me a new tire for $600+. I ended up going to Radburn Exxon in Fair Lawn N.J.. for a repair. They are Michelin dealers and have a great tire guy working there. A real expert. An inside patch/plug, perfectly done with great care not to scratch my turbo rim. Highly recommended.
 
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