great info. would you happen to have pictures of the back of the pcm3? are the connectors identical to the pcm2.1? the big question... can pre 997.2 cars retrofit the PCM3?

thanks..

 

Clearly you will need more than a 3 pin 5vdc regulator, yes filters and short circuit protection can be added, depending on IC selection. But we are all agreed that the solution is simple, and will easily be concealed int the available space, inline with the wiring.

Why they dropped Firewire is still a mystery. The standard is alive and well and serves some very useful purposes in data transfer, albeit not features that are needed in an ipod interface - there the USB 2.0 interface will do... except for the fact that my laptop has USB 1.0 and Firewire interfaces, so I'll be sticking with my old iPod until it dies.

Anyone familiar with the details of the ipod doc connector care to enlighten me on what changes happened to the pins as a result of dropping the firewire interface wiring? I cannot imagine it was a cost saving measure, but who knows. (not that discussing the issue will change things, but I'm curious )

 

no it is a different speed on the CANBUS, and with the money it will cost go aftermarket replacement.

The back is totally different

 

Yes they are, in fact they just spent a week here with me validating everything on the 997's so it is perfect. they will be able to offer a package for Bluetooth, reverse camera, and the multimedia interface a fraction of what the dealer wants. also some cool added features in the future that were not a major priority right now and only a handful of people would use, but think along the lines of video and dual mode cameras, such as speed dependent front, rear camera, and left and right turning cameras.... now if i could just convince him to redesign the unit so it sits higher in the dash...

We''ll have round 2 on the development coming up and soon which will include other things such as radar integration to the cluster, mobile office solutions, wifi, internet, and enabling the nav for those that haven't picked one up with the hard drive in it.... also maybe a track recording of vehicle data.... the possibilities will be endless

the cayenne is different in speeds but it is done also, and verified, however I did notice that the factory bluetooth was corrupted (not activated on the unit) on 1 of 9 PCM 3's in a Cayenne. There was no software fix from the dealer at the time

I also want to say this is the best navigation unit I have used so far from the dealership

And those who want Sirius over the Porsche factory exclusive XM junk deal, well there is good news and bad... the good news is that in the near future you can get both (doesn't have to be Porsche only you can have other vehicles such as GM come Oct 7, with a Sirius preferred package that piggy backs the XM) the bad news is you got a wart on the roof of your car for the antenna...at least they painted it...

we spent a lot of time this past week under some BS conditions verifying everything to ensure it all works.. not mention the boat load of money they did also.

Also you can thank Porsche of North Olmsted for donating the vehicles to be verified on, they were great sports about it... even after they seen their 997's apart... talking about Valiums needed to be handed out...

 

Do you know where the XM antenna is and what it looks like on the cabriolet?

 

So the factory XM option comes with a bump on the roof? I'd rather not have XM. That would ruin the lines of the car for me.

 

I'm not sure why you call the XM install option a 'junk deal'. The new Sirius XM combined radios were not available by the time the new car designs had to be locked down, so a combined xm/sirius radio is just not an option. Its an artifact of the days before the merger when one or the other was the normal install... it was the american way of doing things.

For the use I get out of satellite radio, it makes little difference, as I'm interested in the Nav-Traffic data stream, and beyond that, the basic music channels that both services provide. Exclusively licensed artists and broadcasts are not of interest to me, but would be to folks that are into those types of broadcasts.

Is this xm antenna talk about where the antenna is on the 'later fix to get xm and sirius service, or does it pertain to the Porsche installed XM solution?

If so, I wonder where the XM antenna is placed on the Targa and Cabriolet as well.

That said, if you reject satellite radio, or other data sources, because the antennas ruin the lines of the car for you, then I would argue you really did not want or need the data source in your car to begin with... so its no loss to you. However, if you really get benefit from the signal source, the small change in the profile of the car is insignificant.

 

minok... and everyone else the antenna is on the roof, all the way back above the rear glass, and centered

and your first post is a bit confusing, prior to the merger and the 08's you had a choice. Sure it was for the Cayenne but it retro's to the sports car by some crafty people.

And as for the antenna placement, it is a sports car, done many with the Sirius NAVTV units with the antenna where the factory GPS was located with absolutely zero problems... so Porsche in their infinite wisdom could of said, hey, lets do it like the GPS.

And to give exclusivity to any manu, especially if their is only one competing... you go with the one that does more, or is more demand... or you don't go exclusive and offer both

 

So that puts it back above the engine cover, not the best place to put an antenna, near all of the RF noise due to engine electronics firing off.

 

I played with the new PCM today, and it's good. The touch screen looks nice, and the unit is responsive. Other than that, I don't think it's anything to get excited about.

Here's a picture I took today of the XM antenna on a coupe. I hate it. My dealer assured me the antenna would be hidden, and now I think I'm going to cancel my order.

 

ah no... far from it RFI noise will have no bearing, and the roof being metal is the best place for the antenna because of the metal plane. not to mention that the antenna construction takes into consideration any induced noises there will be no issues. hell look at the GPS antenna in the sports cars, it is near the biggest noise maker in the vehicle, the battery, and the power wire to it.

SO to say it in a nut shell, you don't have to worry about that, ever...

 

I just needed to quote this because NavTv thinks i just get all these type of clients.... nothing against you nullspace, I am just saying there is some picky people and a simple blemish on the vehicle can mean buying a vehicle or not. I just had some guy say he wasn't going to buy his vehicle he ordered 3 months ago because it has XM... he wants Sirius... good news though is Oct 7, Sirius is going to offer XM subscribers the ability tyo get the best of sirius on an XM tuner for $16.99 month... now the only thing that can't be confirmed, PNA doesn't even know, is if the porsche will accept it. the best thing on XM is the 40's channel though.. I do like that...

 

Ok, lets try this again then... let me re-ask the question:

Where is the antenna on a TARGA. The entire roof from just behind the rear-view mirror, all the way back to the engine cover is glass. There is no place to mount the antenna there. So its either under the back window, or somewhere else, right?

Same goes for the Cabriolet, which has no metal roof either.

On neither of those cars can the antenna be mounted just above the back glass on the roofline.

 

The one that I drove, was on the roof (997) even if you mount the antenna above the motor, above the computer, or on top of the airbag computer... and if they all had line of sight to the satellite without any obstructions, you still won't have any issues with EMI or RFI

 

My dealer tells me it's just above the CHMSL on the cab. Haven't seen anything in pictures on on a car.