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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by blakt out
You aren't crazy. It's that I've never known of anyone other than EvoMS getting a run like that in the 1/4 mile. Maybe if they rented the track and had enough time to try and try and try and try, it's possible. Well, of course it is because they show the video of it. But a turbo would be much easier to get an optimal run.

However, I will say that when I ran it (12.12, I believe) I had 20s and no limited slip, and that was my first try that day. I had a good bit of axle hop. I think my trap was 116 though, in that run.

But I've done many acceleration runs from a roll... 5mph to 40mph, and the turbo is simply faster.

I have one, dude. I run it. I'm not scared to push it. I also know how to drive decently. I'm just saying that a turbo has always won in every face off that I've done with one in a straight line. However, the weight, lack of communication, and overall yuckiness of all wheel drive (sorry for being so opinionated here, but I feel this strongly) all contribute to the turbo being slower on back roads and every track that I run, which is 3 tracks very often.

Just trying to help.
im with ya man... but still, from a 40 roll youd think that the SC would be right there since traction shouldnt be an issue and at that point its hp vs hp and trap speeds never lie

maybe the stated #'s are bloated ??
 
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by kdubb
im with ya man... but still, from a 40 roll youd think that the SC would be right there since traction shouldnt be an issue and at that point its hp vs hp and trap speeds never lie

maybe the stated #'s are bloated ??
I'm with you too on that. It's not like you'll get slaughtered from 40-100, but you'll be back a car length by then, if not by 120. In retrospect, I've never run a BONE STOCK TT. They've all had at least an exhaust or chip. I was going back through my runs and I'm pretty sure none were stock.

Also, I only can assume that the numbers are bloated or that everything in those kits didn't make it to production for some reason or other. That dyno graph that I posted was actually done AT VF Engineering. They said that my car was running to spec and that all was good (they had it because I hadn't hooked it up just right when I had the engine and trans out putting the LSD, LWFW, etc in). So they hooked it up for me, took care of me a ton, and said that the car was running 'to spec'. However, that exhaust had a huge pinch point, and I remedied that immediately. I am positive by my ***-dyno that now I have more power. But I still didn't have near the grunt as a 997TT with a chip, exhaust, and intake system did. I ran with him for 2 days, and nope.
 
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by blakt out
I'm with you too on that. It's not like you'll get slaughtered from 40-100, but you'll be back a car length by then, if not by 120. In retrospect, I've never run a BONE STOCK TT. They've all had at least an exhaust or chip. I was going back through my runs and I'm pretty sure none were stock.

Also, I only can assume that the numbers are bloated or that everything in those kits didn't make it to production for some reason or other. That dyno graph that I posted was actually done AT VF Engineering. They said that my car was running to spec and that all was good (they had it because I hadn't hooked it up just right when I had the engine and trans out putting the LSD, LWFW, etc in). So they hooked it up for me, took care of me a ton, and said that the car was running 'to spec'. However, that exhaust had a huge pinch point, and I remedied that immediately. I am positive by my ***-dyno that now I have more power. But I still didn't have near the grunt as a 997TT with a chip, exhaust, and intake system did. I ran with him for 2 days, and nope.
k, well that explains alot

id like to see a STOCK 997TT vs a SC997 run from 40 to 130

going on trap speeds alone, the SC *should* win
 
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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I have a 06 997S cab, that I bought to take my twin boys out for a top down ride. I have owned the car for about 2 and a half years, and have close to 90K into the car (including a VF SC kit), there is very little in the car that has not been replaced, even had suspension pieces made out of CF and titanium is make them lighter and stronger. This car is my 39th and last Porsche, and I never instead to part with it, as it would be impossible to duplicate. I have been moding car for over 30 years, and have lost tens of thousands of dollars in the process, and a SC kit is alot of money. As far as its abilty, it has taken a TT, a 430 (mine), and was faster than my stock Gallardo
 
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Wow. I'm impressed. I've taken a 430 on a track, but never ran it in a line. Never even been around a Gallardo with the chance to run 'em.

When you say "has taken", what kind of runs were they? From a dead stop to 120? A roll? On a road course? Sounds like a nice car.
 
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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My 997S has no traction control (I had it removed) so from a dead stop it takes a perfect start to take the 430, but from a rolling start (which really is the 997 best power band) the 997 was clearly faster. My Gallardo has about 560hp right now and the 997 can not match it. Thanks for the complement
 
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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Anyone find they need a lsd with the sc kit? Blakt out what does your exhaust sound like. Looks cool.

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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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Supercharge it!
 
Old Nov 7, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by rjh58
Anyone find they need a lsd with the sc kit? Blakt out what does your exhaust sound like. Looks cool.

rjh
With an SC, I feel that you MUST install a LSD. I tracked before and after and it's so much more enjoyable, not to mention quicker, not to have one wheel spinning from all that power on exits. Seriously guys, unless you only are going to drive mildly on straight roads, budget for the LSD (and you might was well do the lightweight flywheel while you're in there... it's great) or don't do the SC kit at all. I'm not wanting to be dramatic. I'm telling you what I am sure your own opinion will be.

As for how it sounds, here's the only clip I have. Fabryce at GMG shot it. I didn't know he was filming through the middle section. I should splice it to make it less stupid, but it sounds awesome, imho.

YouTube - GMG WC 997 Sport Exhaust with Center Exit
 
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Originally Posted by jstrat85
i just sc my 996 from vf and im in love!!!!!!!!!
Enjoy.
Just wonder if there is any 'wee' sound when the SC is at work ? Thanks !
 
Old Dec 12, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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Not too much. On cold mornings you can hear it a bit before it warms up. I also can hear mine when I bog it a bit (throttle it from 2500 RPMs). You hear it pretty good, but it's not a 'wee', more of a 'wooooooooooooosh'. It's rad.
 
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Thanks Blakt Out ! I was in a GTR a few times and I don't like the 'wee' sound its turbo makes. I'll find out how the 'wooooosh' sounds like when I install the system next year.
 
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I had this thought a while back. Got a TT....nuff said.

Just my 2c.

(there is more to it than just air...that gt1 engine is important too...)
 
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Originally Posted by MichaelL
I am thinking about doing the VF supercharger in a year, when my 997 2S Cabrio goes out of warranty. I already have some $13K in aftermarket, about $9K of that into the motor. I also put a lot of miles on, around 33K so far and will take a hit on that whenever I sell the car.
What in the world did you buy for engine upgrades for $9K? And why did you just get a supercharger at that price point? You've already probably blown your warranty with whatever you've done and probably barely got 35hp out of it...
 
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Originally Posted by silk
Enjoy.
Just wonder if there is any 'wee' sound when the SC is at work ? Thanks !
You can hear the blower. It's kind of faint thought. Not nearly as bad as the TPC. That kit is obnoxious and would get old very quick....
 

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