Who would trade their 911 for an M3?
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Would you trade your toilet brush for an M3?
Let's see old the Grey Pouper get his head around this one...
Tony Kanaan drove an M3 faster round Laguna Seca than an old toilet brush.
My M3 is faster than a toilet brush.
My M3 has better brakes than a toilet brush.
A toilet brush is less reliable.
Toilet brush owners are wannabee's.
There's no back seat in a toilet brush. M3's beat the toilet brush out back.
Some M3 owners bristle more than a toilet brush when they're defeated.
Add more reasons why your M3 or toilet brush is better. Just remember no butts.
Let's see old the Grey Pouper get his head around this one...
Tony Kanaan drove an M3 faster round Laguna Seca than an old toilet brush.
My M3 is faster than a toilet brush.
My M3 has better brakes than a toilet brush.
A toilet brush is less reliable.
Toilet brush owners are wannabee's.
There's no back seat in a toilet brush. M3's beat the toilet brush out back.
Some M3 owners bristle more than a toilet brush when they're defeated.
Add more reasons why your M3 or toilet brush is better. Just remember no butts.
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Not to make this into a another heated battle, but the 13.1 could be a partly due to reaction time, wheel slippage, lack of Launch control, missed shift, etc.
You ran a 12.2 (ok you say 12.1, but your sheet said 12.19 so I guess we are both right) and the .9 of a second can seem like a lot of distance at speed, but we have all seen some problems/mistakes in a race that will cost a second or more (most of us have watched an episode of Pinks).
The purpose of this thread was not to get into a debate as to why the Porsche 997 is better then the BMW M3 or vise versa, it was to ask how many people would trade there 997 for an M3. You have argued to many people the merits of the M3, and have asked the question have you ever driven an M3 to a few, I am wondering have you driven a 997, not to the corner store, but a good drive were it can be pushed and driven. I doubt that you have otherwise you would not be so negative towards the 997.
As for your comment about being afraid of the M3, I am afraid when I get in front of one, and the corner requires some heavy braking. Not sure if I will find an M3 hitting me from behind or not when the brakes fail. Please don't deny the that the brakes are weak, if you continue I will know for sure that you have not driven you car hard on a track for more then a few laps.
You ran a 12.2 (ok you say 12.1, but your sheet said 12.19 so I guess we are both right) and the .9 of a second can seem like a lot of distance at speed, but we have all seen some problems/mistakes in a race that will cost a second or more (most of us have watched an episode of Pinks).
The purpose of this thread was not to get into a debate as to why the Porsche 997 is better then the BMW M3 or vise versa, it was to ask how many people would trade there 997 for an M3. You have argued to many people the merits of the M3, and have asked the question have you ever driven an M3 to a few, I am wondering have you driven a 997, not to the corner store, but a good drive were it can be pushed and driven. I doubt that you have otherwise you would not be so negative towards the 997.
As for your comment about being afraid of the M3, I am afraid when I get in front of one, and the corner requires some heavy braking. Not sure if I will find an M3 hitting me from behind or not when the brakes fail. Please don't deny the that the brakes are weak, if you continue I will know for sure that you have not driven you car hard on a track for more then a few laps.
Regardless, it does not really matter. Hope people understand it is personal preference but reality is the M3 is the stronger performer and I took that into consideration in my purchasing decision vs. the 997S.
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12.19 sounds more like 12.2 then 12.1 to me, but that is around 1% difference. It is all the same. I guess 1.1 seconds on a 1.40 lap is more significant. Your right about one thing, I wasn't there.
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You just can't stretch your wallet enough to afford the C2S? Me too so I just settled for the 2009 base c2.
He who has the more expensive vehicle wins! and he who has the biggest d*ck also wins!
He who has the more expensive vehicle wins! and he who has the biggest d*ck also wins!
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Thanks for boiling it down...I think that displacement measurement is coming next!
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Thanks for boiling it down...I think that displacement measurement is coming next!
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I'm not.
If I had a family and kids and needed some kind of practical hauler I might consider a BMW. I'm just having fun with Old Grey Pouper who refuses to accept that the 911 is a pure sports car and the M3 a converted sedan.
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It's funny... there's a thread on m3forum right now were people are debating 2008 m3 versus 2007 911s. The great majority there are saying to go with the P-car! It's funny how many on both this and the other forums own or have owned both.
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Please post the link so we can help our friend CURIO find his way home.
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Makes sense, dissenting opinions need to be filtered. Remove everyone who thinks differently or has an opinion outside the group mentality. How progressive!
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Just because my M3 would spank your cab around a track even with 4 adults in it does not make it any less of a sports car, it makes it more of one. Porsche's "pure" 911 can't beat BMW's M3 in professional competition, but reality seems to be beyond your grasp. If you keep this up maybe you will actually start to believe it?
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I have no doubt that your DCT equiped car is easy to drive, but it will not last a hard day at the track.
You will not convince anyone with your broken record arguemnet that lacks any and all credabilty.