Fair point. My error of omission. But as I noted, DFI enables a lot of things, including safely boosting compression ratio, while lowering emissions, conserving fuel and improving drivability. The 'finer grain' control enabled by DFI coupled with high powered ECU's enable manufacturers to do all sorts of magic that are simply unachievable through previous means.

 

Yeah, I heard him hit the rev limiter too.

 

I had the e92 M3 (manual) until I traded it for my 09 C4S PDK, and to be honest can't fathom the two cars being that far apart down a straight line. The M3 may or may not be slower than the C2S with PDK, but can't possibly be that slower, unless we're missing something here.

 

We'll have to find you a M3 to race.

Why did you trade up? Tell us about the difference in the two cars now that you have owned both.

 

Not true, This was the M3 DCT at the event so therefore we used that,

If you think I want to decide things like that I could have skipped mention that it was modified in the first place, or just skip put the movie up in the first place

Its not like I have a superdome of cars and I am the only one playing with these, we have many many witnesses to this.

 

No it is not. The PDK 911 KILLED the E39 M5 as it should do. I dont have a problem with that.

 

Ah, so you are Member Sticky?

Now I understand. Even earlier than this you thought it was a major conspirace these events

let me tell you again, they're not

 

A 997 Turbo woulkd take it.

We tried 996 Turbo vs the PDK and in the end the 996 TT took it, but uptp 120 mph it was ahead.

 

Gustav,


if possible, can you do a vid comparing 09 c2 base versus 08 c2s? thanks

 

Gustav, stop trying to save face, seriously.

You and I know what is going on. Do I really have to link to the thread where you ban me over daring to question the legitimacy of your videos?

I'm a car guy, love to see this stuff, but putting things in context is the nature of boards.

Is it really that hard for the admin of M5board to find STOCK cars? You managed to find them before when they were not running stiff competition.

How long did it take for me to get you to admit an E92 would walk the almighty E39? Yet, what does your video show? You PURPOSELY showed a modded E39 running a 6 speed E92 that was poorly driven to prop up the E39. Come on man, people over here are not that dumb nor are they willing to believe anything you feed them.

Why did you show the modded M5 vs. the PDK 997S when STOCK M5's attended the event? The internet is a small place

Very simple, you show modded M's when they are going to get walked. No big deal, simply a fact, admit it, move on, you can't ban me here. There is no conspiracy, just someone hand picking videos and situations to portray things a certain way. Would love to see the modded M5 touring run that modded M3 DCT, as I know what happens when I run modded M5's.

We all understand you are peddling your videos, but remove the links to your board in your sig. You ban people on yours for linking to other boards, so kindly don't be a hypocrite, it isn't fair to the sponsors here when you attempt to divert traffic.

 

I have probably written bits and pieces of this all over the place on this board, so to summarize -

PRIOR TO TRADE-UP
1) e92 M3 felt detached. had an e46 M3 which felt a little more down to the road
2) engine was amazing, but felt out of place in that car. the M3 was made for a high output 6, not a V8 in many ways
3) I went from last 3 cars SMG to this one manual. As some on the board would say, I "softened up" a little and lost my taste for manual at that point.
4) Test drove a porsche before I got the M3 for the first time ever... but went with the trusty-dusty bimmer as I had been doing for the past several cars. Couldn't get the feeling of the Pcar out of my mind.
5) was not too happy about the interior of the M3. Technologically superior to the Porsche in many ways, was used to the iDrive, but had that interior since 2004 when I had the new body 530i with nav.... I had grown annoyed with some aspects of it. The insescent seatbelt chime caused me to be suicidal at times
6) Car had it's limits. The car didn't positively surprise me too often. It was as stated in all numbers by the manufacturer (hp,tq,0-60,1/4 mile, etc) at best. Felt the auto journalists were over enthusiastic... it was not the best thing since sliced bread as they had explicitly stated in atleast 1 article (C&D perhaps). Suspension was interesting with the multiple setting EDC feature for dampening, but had it's bad points compared to prior years. Not sure what it was, but car did not hold as well as the e46. Maybe something about the LSD, don't know the specifics of the e92 but the e46 had a 3.46 LSD from what I recall.
7) Came up to a $45k 335 with the $700 proceed chip and got a run for my money in my supposedly superior $76k M3. Wasn't too happy about that. Don't care that much about races and I know there's always other factors... but, c'mon.

POST TRADE-UP
8) Porsche is a true sports car in any raw comparison, period. You get the feel from the time you start up till you step out of the car. I wanted that. Have since murdered 335's modded out, an SL55 (I know I'll catch some controversy over that, but can only say what honestly happened) and have kept up or ahead with the best at times (1-1.5 cars ahead of my M6 to 150mph, stayed close with buddy's GTR and buddy's Gallardo, to the point where even he was truly shocked). I've got an internal confidence that I can walk all over an M3, though don't know much about the DCT. Feel I got more my money's worth with the Porsche once I got it and explored it, although my Porsche was about $40k more MSRP. Wow factor everytime I drive the car, which is almost everyday.
9) Have since extensively driven my buddy's GTR for 1 week straight once and many other times for short periods, and although superior in all major factors such as speed and handling IMO, I would not get one. Doesn't have that feel I get with the Porsche. Now when we hang out I lobby to take my porsche, as I don't care much to drive his GTR anymore, kind of past the glitzy glamour of that car. Honestly more towards the AMG feeling than the Porsche feeling IMO. The lambo, however..... I still salivate over that.

 

Nice write up. BTW the M5 and M6 smoke the new M3.

 

Not until you hit triple digits, from a stop and in the 1/4 the new m3 has the advantage.

The stock DCT is surprisingly close to the stock M5.

 

JUst a few things I would like to ask. Is this c2s PDK with the lsd and catless option? I have gone up with a stock m3 and have beaten it like the video. Infact I have even raced an m6 with a catback. However he had 20 inch wheels. We went from a roll on at gear 1 up to around 180 kms and I was still infront. The new c2s pdk is pathetically fast for what it is. Just a work of art.

 

Forgot to mention. I had a passenger next to me aswell, and there was no one in the m6. Are there any videos on m5board with a stock c2s vs a m5 or m6?