gotta get new tires, should I...
August C&D tire test rated these (invo's) 2nd to last in wet and dry testing....in addition I have read numerous bad reviews on these tires on various sites. Seems that the Dunlop star spec and the Hankook Ventus scored best in wet and dry and more importantly above the PS2's. Intrestingly the Kumho Ecsta XS had a really good dry score while being nearly at the bottom in the wet. If your car never see's a wet road, these may be a nice cheap alternative to the much more $$$ PS2's. All that being said I have not checked on whether or not these tires are available in our car sizes.
My bad, yes, 305/30/19 for the rears. I'll go back and edit my response. Thanks for the catch.
August C&D tire test rated these (invo's) 2nd to last in wet and dry testing....in addition I have read numerous bad reviews on these tires on various sites. Seems that the Dunlop star spec and the Hankook Ventus scored best in wet and dry and more importantly above the PS2's. Intrestingly the Kumho Ecsta XS had a really good dry score while being nearly at the bottom in the wet. If your car never see's a wet road, these may be a nice cheap alternative to the much more $$$ PS2's. All that being said I have not checked on whether or not these tires are available in our car sizes.
Problem with Nittos is they are greasy the first 500 miles or so. There are quite a few good reviews on them as well. I really respect the opinion of Fabryce over at GMG racing..I do know they sell these but I don't think he would recommend these tires if he felt they weren't any good. I've seen bad reviews for PS2's as well. The ZO6 crowd seem to like them though...If I got them they aren't a tire I would track with, they would be just strictly a street tire
They are available in Pcar 997 sizes if you can live with a 305/30/19 rears. They make them in 235/35/19 and 305/30/19 with equal load ratings as well as speed ratings.
Dave
Last edited by Dave07997S; Jul 10, 2009 at 09:52 AM.
No kidding. For a 997 C4S a set of the Hankook's will be $856 versus $1814 for the PS2's. I may get killed here for stating this from some of you that say "if you can afford a 997, a thousand bucks shouldn't mean that much". However, I don't track my car, I don't drive in the rain (my car is strictly weekend fun), and a thousand bucks will buy me lots of premium unleaded.
Last edited by JoeShark; Jul 10, 2009 at 10:34 AM.
Check out Discount Tire, they are only $750. I think SportAuto (German magazine) has done reviews with the Hankooks. I'll take a look at that. They are certainly not at the top of the rankings. I'm sure the Nittos aren't either.
I struggle with this a bit too. I know that loud tires with bad on center feel and lousy grip sure kill the ride of the car. I've got the Bridgestone 960 A/S tires on my car and I can tell you they suck. REALLY loud at 40 mph and the soft sidewalls make for horrible dry handling. I think they are a good winter alternative, I guess. (all snow tires will have this kind of compromise). I'm dying to take them off though and hammer the car now that it's summer!
I struggle with this a bit too. I know that loud tires with bad on center feel and lousy grip sure kill the ride of the car. I've got the Bridgestone 960 A/S tires on my car and I can tell you they suck. REALLY loud at 40 mph and the soft sidewalls make for horrible dry handling. I think they are a good winter alternative, I guess. (all snow tires will have this kind of compromise). I'm dying to take them off though and hammer the car now that it's summer!
Here is the link to the SportAuto review of the Hankook S1 Evo, which is not the Ventus, but is "highly recommended". Good handling, middle of the road hydroplaning. Not sure if this specific tire is available in the US.
http://www.sportauto-online.de/somme...o-1200841.html
http://www.sportauto-online.de/somme...o-1200841.html
Ah, let's quit messing around. Here is the real test. Tires on a modded 997S in 19 inch sizes. Helps if you read German, but anyone can read the track numbers and times. This can give you a guide to performance of a tire on a Porsche, not a BMW.
http://www.sportauto-online.de/testb...n-1037228.html
http://www.sportauto-online.de/testb...n-1037228.html
Ah, let's quit messing around. Here is the real test. Tires on a modded 997S in 19 inch sizes. Helps if you read German, but anyone can read the track numbers and times. This can give you a guide to performance of a tire on a Porsche, not a BMW.
http://www.sportauto-online.de/testb...n-1037228.html
http://www.sportauto-online.de/testb...n-1037228.html
Google is your friend. English version.
Pretty rough translation, but you get the idea. Nice link.
So, finally came to a decision. I went with the original, Michelin PS2, after speaking with Damon (who is the man!) I decided to stick to the same tires as what I have up front. If I needed a set of 4, I would have gone with the bridgestone just to give em a try. If anyone needs any tires, TireRack is truly the cheapest around, and also very helpful.
It was a real pleasure talking with Damon and he was a real help in giving me tons of insight.
Thanks for all your help as well fellow 6speeders.
It was a real pleasure talking with Damon and he was a real help in giving me tons of insight.
Thanks for all your help as well fellow 6speeders.
So, finally came to a decision. I went with the original, Michelin PS2, after speaking with Damon (who is the man!) I decided to stick to the same tires as what I have up front. If I needed a set of 4, I would have gone with the bridgestone just to give em a try. If anyone needs any tires, TireRack is truly the cheapest around, and also very helpful.
It was a real pleasure talking with Damon and he was a real help in giving me tons of insight.
Thanks for all your help as well fellow 6speeders.
It was a real pleasure talking with Damon and he was a real help in giving me tons of insight.
Thanks for all your help as well fellow 6speeders.
Thanks for the feedback as to what you are moving forward with.
Google is your friend. English version.
Thanks it looks like the Pirelli's won this one overall.
Also the Hankooks aren't in 997 sizes as well if you want to stay with the 19s
Dave
Last edited by Dave07997S; Jul 10, 2009 at 12:17 PM.



