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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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I'll have it up again shortly, there is a new part number and new pricing. Hope you're all sitting down!
 
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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I never quite understand this, any harm in posting the number??
Not the 997.2 PSE, for the 997.1. Why would the part number change?
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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I never quite understand this, any harm in posting the number??
Not the 997.2 PSE, for the 997.1. Why would the part number change?
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My guess is that the part number directly reflects the price and if the price changes, they probably change the part number so there's no confusion. Just a guess though...
 
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Not a fan of the 997.1 PSE tips. The 997.2 PSE tips are nice.
 
Old Sep 19, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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AfterHours

AfterHours, all the way. LOUD, but you'll love it. Give it a couple hundred miles to settle in, sound is VERY inconsistent until then, sometimes unbearable, sometimes quiet. AFter it settles, best sound comes from 3,200RPM through 5,000 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and under throttle higher in the range in 5th and 6th. You'll save about about 14lbs per muffler over stock.

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I'm thinking of buying an 07 997S without PSE. I love the sound of PSE though. The dealer wants $4,000 to have the PSE installed. Is there an aftermarket exhaust that sounds like the PSE and doesn't have any drone issues. Less than $4,000 would be a bonus. Thanks.
 
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Thought I'd resurrect this one. Happened to look on the Suncoast website and the PSE was $2600, then went up to over $3000 (don't remember how much) and is now down to $2100!! Hope no one got caught in the temporary price increase over $3k! Really not such a bad deal, especially when you consider it includes tips that are easily over $600 alone.
 
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Originally Posted by spudz5
do the gundo hack instead. just had it done this past weekend and it sounds great. same sound as PSE for 1/10 of the price. unless you care for having two modes silent and loud which the pse provides, just do the hack. search gundo hack or "PSE a waste of money".

Explain this gundo hack pls, I did a search & nothing?
 
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Gundo hack:
weld a 2" pipe between the inlet and outlet pipes on your stock mufflers.
Check out this link for details. http://www.renntrack.com/forums/showthread.php?p=980
 
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The sound with Gundo hack is not bad for the price, 2" pipe is a bit loud for me, I would go with 1.5" pipe.
 
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Has anyone dynoed that? Curious to see if there is a gain/loss of power. Post some sound videos, I'd like to hear it.
 
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Originally Posted by suncoastric
Has anyone dynoed that? Curious to see if there is a gain/loss of power. Post some sound videos, I'd like to hear it.
As with most mufflers, there's no relevant power gain or loss.

Here's how an exhaust typically works: gasses pass from the engine through the headers, into and out of the cats, then into the mufflers, through the muffler baffles, then out the muffler and into the air. Mufflers have an inlet pipe and an outlet pipe, and in between is the muffler "can" which may contain baffles. With the Gundo Hack, you are adding a connection pipe between the muffler inlet pipe and outlet pipe such that some of the gasses coming from the cats bypass the muffler's baffles altogether.

Hacking your OEM mufflers in this manner is similar in sound and basic principle as the PSE, with the primary difference being that it's not switchable on/off.

I am currently running AfterHours mufflers with AWE cats, and will swap to Gundo mufflers with AWE cats this weekend, and post some clips, meanwhile, here is a photo of a set of Gundo hacked mufflers that shows the small 2" diameter pipe connecting the muffler's inlet pipe to it's outlet pipe, which allows some undefined percentage of the exhaust gasses to bypass the muffler baffles/ can:


And here is a clip of some similarly hacked mufflers with stock cats:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf0NpWNAj78

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I have a set of 997.1 S mufflers available for sale ($100). I'm in the L.A. area (Palos Verdes). Was planning to do the Gundo hack on these mufflers, but sold the car instead. PM me if interested. Local pickup only.

Update 11/5 3:15 PST - sold!
 

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Originally Posted by pvgolfer
I have a set of 997.1 S mufflers available for sale ($100). I'm in the L.A. area (Palos Verdes). Was planning to do the Gundo hack on these mufflers, but sold the car instead. PM me if interested. Local pickup only.
That is an insane deal for someone- wish I'd known about it a week ago!
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Originally Posted by 299moto
Explain this gundo hack pls, I did a search & nothing?
search "PSE a waste of money" thread. Shows a few pictures. Basically a 2" pipe about 3 inches long connecting the inlet and outlet pipes on each exhaust. A very simple job with great overall sound in the end.
 


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