Also - looking here
http://www.autocarparts.com/c_Porsch...ion_Sway-Bars/

I see Eibach sells for $340 front and rear bars and H&R sells only front for $360. Is it something historical or does H&R exceed Eibach in quality, well, two times?

 

I have a set of H&R sway bars and would not buy them again. They're solid bars and I was really surprised how heavy they were. Also, they have a more limited range of adjustment than (e.g.) GMG bars. It's probably not that big a deal, but weight is evil.

 

I was following Tim this morning on the run and I have a solution for him! Get a C4S! I had no problem at all.

Danny

 

So you were having no problems keep up with Tim, there is no way to know if you could have kept up with Edgemont Village in his GT3 RS.

 

the 4's are supposed to be more prone to understeer than the RWD variants.

 

Actually, I do know. I have followed Edgemont Village before, and i can tell you that there is no way i can keep up!!

 

Guys,

I have found the perfect solution to keep up with Lloyd's .1GT3RS...

I'm going to get a .2GT3RS...delivery next April.

 

Not knowing your driving skills and style this can be somewhat hard to tell you what to do on a forum...but...as far as a stock car goes they are set up to understeer. This is for safety for inexperianced drivers that will over drive the car on the street. It is all about keeping the car in balance front to rear and side to side. What can help is an alignment with less toe up front and more camber. With a stock 997 you will not be able to totally dial out understeer but you can make the car handle better on the street and inspire more confidence. The max camber up front you can get with stock suspension is -1 camber...this with no more than .02 degrees of toe the car will turn is better. Keep the rear camber with in .5 degrees of the rear. If you add GT3 Cup lower control arms you will be able to get more camber up front and have less in the rear an then the car will really turn in.

 

I think getting the new GT3 RS is a much better solution to the understeer problem.

 

What does it do to a street safety to have -2 or more camber all time on front axle?

 

Also, does install of racing sway bar and GT3 control arms push car out of a stock class or does it not? What is the edge there in relation to suspension mods?

 

Having more grip up front will allow the rear end to rotate around more easily. Especially in a rear engine car. This can be troublesome for inexperianced drivers going into a corner....most will lift the throttle...and around comes the rear. This was comon in 911's of the past. Most all street cars are set up this way in today's world. Keeps the general public slower and safer.

 

Stock class as in PCA AutoX? Yes it does. Even swapping out something as simple and minor as a muffler puts you in another class. As far as DE's it does not matter. The reason I went with GT3 Cup lower control arms is I have exceeded the stock set up and need more grip and much better tire wear.

 

what was your experience, what gain have you achieved going from -1 front camber to -2, like, how faster did it really let you go?

 

I have 2 track days with -2. 1st day was in rain and the 2nd day was dry but I was taking sick kids on charity rides so I was only around 5-7/10ths driving with very few hot laps on my own.

For starters tire wear is better...outside tire temps are cooler and that tells me I can push it even harder in the corners. I might pick up around 1 or so seconds at Sebring but most of all my tire wear on the out side will be better. The car definitally turns in better but I noticed on certain turns the car feels more neutral and I can get back on the throttle sooner. I will probably notice the rear will rotate even better.