Dealer want $350 to do this...I was like WTF. Anyway any help greatly appreciated. I was thinking of getting the motive performance bleeder. It looks like its a pretty simple job. Input appreciated..

Also what brake fluid do you guys recommend.

Dave

 

Hey Dave - I had an indi do it. They used Motul 600 and it cost me $89 including the fluid. Pretty good deal to me and I didn't get my hands dirty.

 

Yea I just got a quote from Lucent Motorsports..Tom's a great guy and the quote was $85.00 with Motul. If I tracked the car I would bother with getting the performance motive bleeder. I don't think I will have this car another 2 years.

Dave

 

Check these out:
http://www.renntech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=7064
http://http://forums.rennlist.com/re...-question.html
Use this Motive bleeder:
Black Label European Bleeder 0109
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0109 Black Label European Bleeder - aluminum cap and swivel fitting

Features Custom-machined aluminum cap and deluxe swivel fitting. Comes with an extra length of high grade poly urethane tubing that won't cloud or crack with exposure to brake fluid. Works on most European cars, including Alfa Romeo, Audi, BMW, Fiat, Mercedes, Peugeot, Porsche, Renault, SAAB, Volkswagen, Volvo, and all other cars with 45mm threaded hydraulic fluid reservoir caps. This kit comes with adapter 1109. All bleeders come with a full 1 year warranty.

 

I saw those thanks...after I posted it I realized that Renntech probably had it under the 996.

Dave

 

FWIW, I also got about the same quote from my dealer. They also made a claim that they bleed the ABS channel, which an indi won't do. I'm CERTAIN anyone with a bleeder at home isn't doing that either. I'm with you that over my ownership span, it really isn't going to matter much.
For me, I had the great Motul in there, then my clutch slave cylinder broke (supposedly a small plastic part). So the dealer bled the whole system and flushed out my Motul! I also don't think they bled it properly even after they did it a second time. Seems fine now, but not quite as good as it was.

 

Bleeding the ABS shouldn't be another $250..from my understanding all they are doing is plugging in PIWIS to get the ABS to pump as well.

Dave

 

I'll put it to you like this, I charge $90 to flush brakes and replace fluid. Fluid is not included. If they're hooking it up to the computer to properly bleed the abs channel, it'll pay another hour. 2 hours labour plus fluid, you're in the $200-250 ball park.

Fwiw, because of the nature of a hydraulic braking system you're better off getting all the fluid out including the abs. I have the tools to do it and wouldn't trust anyone to do it aswell as I do but that's me.

 

I have the power bleeder, and it is very easy to change the fluid, it is about 20 minutes when changing wheels after a track day. If you aren't tracking your car and will sell it soon, just get an indi to change it for you.

 

Power Bleeders make it a cinch. So simple a Democrat could do it.

 

Do the wheels have to be removed to get to the inside bleeders? Thanks.

 

Yea each wheel has to come off for you get to the Zerts.

 

Do the wheels have to be removed to get to the inside bleeders? Thanks.

It can be done without removing the wheels but it is a PIA. The fronts are easier if you turn the wheels outward. For the backs you have to put your arm/hand over the top of the tire and work it that way. I helped a friend do it once because we were in the middle of nowhere and his master cylinder leaked and he got air in the line. We did it but I wouldn't want to do it again. However it's very easy once the wheels are off & plus you get a chance to really clean the tires & rims and you can clean the brake caliper of any brake fluid drips. Don't forget the 9th bleed nipple, Mr. Clutch. Unless you have very long arms & are very thin you will not be able to flush the clutch fluid with your four wheels on the ground.

 

Thanks..just saw a youtube video of it being done. Very simple...

Dave

 

Ya but what I meant was if the car is off the ground on jacks. I guess the fronts would be easier since you can turn them, but can you get to the zerts on the rear wheels by reaching thru the wheels to the zerts assuming you are lying underneath the car.