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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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Cold Start - Does your 911 sound like this?

There's a lot of "garble" noise. Is this normal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8FxTFo4STU
 
Old Feb 28, 2010 | 10:46 AM
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Yep - That is EXACTLY what mine sounds like on a cold start
 
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Music to my ears. Normal.
 
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Taylor took my exact reply, except I started mine with an "Ahhh... Music to my ears"
 
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That popping noise you hear at the very beginning is a result of the combustion process being modified to get the catalysts up to operating temperature quickly to reduce emmisions. I believe it involves the airpump and ignition timing retardation.
 
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There's a lot of "garble" noise. Is this normal?
Normal but the white smoke can be reduced or eliminated if the night before you let the engine idle for a couple of minutes before shut-off, especially if you just arrived from a spirited drive.
 
Old Feb 28, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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What causes the white smoke?
 
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I think that the white smoke is mostly water vapor condensation on a very hot exhaust. On rear mounted engines the exhaust is very hot. It helps to cool down the engine slowly before shutting it off. Drive slow for a few miles before shut-off. On boxer engines that are suddenly stopped hot there may be also some oil being expelled in a cold start. That's why many of us let it idle a couple of minutes before shut-off to bring oil pressures down.
 
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I believe the water vapor one sees when starting up a cold engine is the result of the exhaust vapor condensing in the ambient air just outside the tailpipe. When the egine begins to warm up ( more specifically the exhaust), the superheated vapor remains in suspension and at a higher temperature when leaving the tailpipe. The moderately cool air then has a chance of absorbing the vapor before it condenses. In very cold climates ( eg less than 10 deg F) or in extremely humid conditions the exhaust vapor condenses outside the tailpipe no matter how warm the engine and exhaust are. For this, I think it does not matter how you shut down the engine.

I do believe, however, that one should drive moderately for the last few miles after hard driving and let it idle at 1000 to 1500 rpm for 1 - 2 minutes before shut down.

Finally, I have seen some smoky engines on start up ( Boxsters, in particular but I do not know why). Generally I would think it indicates some wear for most cars but for P-cars, I am guessing it has to do with the horizontal cylinders.
 
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I love that sound!!
 
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ggregory: yup, and I wish I could make it sound that way all the time. Wait until you hear it with an upgraded exhaust system.
 
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Yup, you should hear it with Borlas and 200cpi cats.

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Yep, just like that.
 
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yup, n I especially love hitting my sport button, opening up the pse, AWESOME!!!
 
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It must be very cold over your way. Sounds good tho.
 


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