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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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What a journey, love your new ride. How do you like the PDK vs. your Tip? Very nice paddle/wheel conversion. Great configuration w/seats and PCCB's. You car is so elegant does not need the stickers.
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post pics with the new rims when they come in
 
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just a beauty!
love the seats,could you give more pics?
 
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Beautiful car. Perfect config. PCCB's, sports seats, paddle wheel. Wow. Just wow. Enjoy her for a long, long time. I don't think, for my tastes, that I've ever seen a better 997.x config.
I'm neutral on the stripes. Doubt I would have selected them but they look quite good from here.
 
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very nice car!...only thing I would have added is full leather and PSE...but love your PCCB and sport seats as well as the paddle shifters.
 
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sorry in advance for the long response

thanks all for the nice comments. it's about 50/50 on the decals and i'm leaning toward taking them off but i'm going to wait until my new wheels get here - OR - i could put an old school "porsche" decal in it's place. i rather doubt it ,but the sport classic wheels will put a nice retro feel to the car (see attached).

Originally Posted by ls03od
Sweet looking car. Love the sport seats and the yellow belts matching the PCCBs. I would recommend getting rid of the decals though.

Was your 2007 an S or non-S and was it manual or tiptronic? If it was a manual, how do you like the PDK vs the manual?
thank you. my 2007 was a carrera S tip. i had an E55 and after we had our second child, my wife suddenly thought it was fine to get a porsche - so i bought it within 2 weeks before she changed her mind . she was very clear tha that i get ONE car, because she knows i'll just keep acquiring things, so the first priority was on a DD. here in seattle, i can frequently end up taking 40 minutes to travel 3 miles in traffic.

i would have preferred a 6 speed but the tip was actually the better car for me. at porsche sport driving school, i always drove the manual. i knew when i bought it that if the PDK was as good as people expected, that i'd upgrade when it was available. i had lots of fun with the tiptronic S on the track and was pretty quick. and, it sure made it easier sitting in traffic on our floating bridges to get downtown in seattle for an hour.

in the end, i needed a car that had back seats (2 little kids), that i could track and that i could get in my garage. i have a steep slope down my driveway that i can't modify and those criteria ruled out a 2010 GT3, 2007 GT3 and the 2007 GT3 RS. not sure why i didn't consider a turbo more but i just didn't really want a turbo. the pricing these days is fantastic though.

in the end, i got to keep the E55 anyway it's a 99 and is bulletproof and really not worth that much to sell relative to how much i value the car.

Originally Posted by doug2255
Congrtas!

My vote - no decals.

Do any of the 4 stalks interfere with the paddles?

Good luck with her.
so far, no issues with the other stalks. i bumped one once and it is a tad busy on the column, but it's perfectly fine. NOTE: the paddle wheel with the sport chrono indicators is not compatable with the 2009 - the indicators do not illuminate because of the DME. we put it on anyway (apprx $200 extra for that option on the wheel) with the hope that we'll figure out how to get it to work later or just ignore the lights. you can't see them if they're not illuminated anyway.

Originally Posted by D-UberCars
What a journey, love your new ride. How do you like the PDK vs. your Tip? Very nice paddle/wheel conversion. Great configuration w/seats and PCCB's. You car is so elegant does not need the stickers.
See you at the track.
PDK is a remarkably substantial upgrade from the tip. for me, the tip was always a compromise as i would have preferred a 6 speed but it was never a big deal.

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Beautiful car. Perfect config. PCCB's, sports seats, paddle wheel. Wow. Just wow. Enjoy her for a long, long time. I don't think, for my tastes, that I've ever seen a better 997.x config.
I'm neutral on the stripes. Doubt I would have selected them but they look quite good from here.
thank you very much. the car is a "unicorn" as PJ puts it. full leather and XM would be nice but the secret advantage is the PASM sports suspension which lowers the car another 10mm and is more stiffly sprung, with different suspension management.
The new PASM sports chassis is available as an option for Coupe models and only in conjunction with 19-inch wheels. The suspension is 20 mm lower in comparison to the standard suspension of the 911 Carrera, and 10 mm lower compared with the PASM suspension of the S models. The springs are harder and shorter, and the lateral stabilisers on the front and rear axle are stiffer. In combination with PASM, it offers greater comfort than that of a conventional sports suspension.

The mechanically locking rear differential further enhances the traction of the driven rear wheels on uneven roads and, for example, when accelerating out of tight curves. Road holding at the limits of performance is even more predictable. The car holds its course better and so PSM intervenes less often.
Originally Posted by mact3333
very nice car!...only thing I would have added is full leather and PSE...but love your PCCB and sport seats as well as the paddle shifters.
i hear the PSE is not as nice on the DFI motors as it was on the previous version. i had it on my old car, loved it, but chose not to put it on this one. i hear consistently it's about 8-10 hrs of labor alone to add!

again, thanks for the encouraging comments. i'll get some more pics that are of higher quality when it stops raining sideways. God realized we didn't have much of a winter here in Seattle this year as he was busy punishing the rest of the country and is making up for it now.
 
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Spectacular car, great build, looks stunning - sans decal

BTW, how do u like the E55? Has it been pretty reliable? Have been thinking about getting one for a DD-
 
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Spectacular car, great build, looks stunning - sans decal

BTW, how do u like the E55? Has it been pretty reliable? Have been thinking about getting one for a DD-
that E55 has been bulletproof and i love it. it's a 1999 W210 chassis. all i've replaced is a crankshaft position sensor, and normal wear and tear stuff like brakes, etc.

edit - and a rear window track. i think they wear out on all the E classes
 

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Hey all - i moved from my 2007 into a 2009 PDK Carrera S and wanted to share. [...]
It's a Carrera S, Black on Black, PCCBs, Sport Bucket seats. i also put on the paddle steering wheel yesterday. For me, it's the perfect blend to have a car that I can use as a DD, tote the kids, and go to the track and pound on and, that gets into my garage without breaking off the nose.

i'm still not sure if i like the decals or if they'll stay. feedback welcome. they seem to grow on people and look better in person, but i'm going to decide after a few weeks...
I can't believe I'm saying this because most decals look to me like a boy racer with a new crayon set, but I really like those on a black car. Unless you have a serious need to be more discreet, I would vote for keeping them. There is something about the understated elegant black combining with the decal that is appealing.

Incidentally, you have a car that isn't a problem with your driveway, but did you consider those widgets that Griot's Garage sells for us exotic owners? They lie at the transition from road to drive and provide a low-departure angle transition, while keeping drainage through internal channels.

We live in the country with no paved gutters, but I've been thinking about one of those for the time when Summer comes and the county roads people grade us again for drainage. They'll scrape away the nice level transition I sweet-talked out of the most recent construction crew laying pipe nearby. After that, this C2S may start clipping the sharp edge the grader leaves unless I pay some healthy youngster to knock it flat with a pickaxe and rake. I had to do that annually with the NSX and I grow weary. That gadget might solve the problem as the country grader is surprisingly courteous about skirting such devices.

If you considered it, what did you think?

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Originally Posted by brendo
as soon a physically possible. i need to update the front brake ducts (very small difference from stock) and then i'll be down at pacific raceways.

i'm also researching which pads to use - if it's cool, i should have zero issues with the stock.
I will be astonished if you can manage to heat stress a set of carbon ceramics in the Northwest Summer. Actually, I'd be pretty damn surprised to hear someone managed it here running at Willow with 140 F track temps. Do you really think it might be an issue?

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I can't believe I'm saying this because most decals look to me like a boy racer with a new crayon set, but I really like those on a black car. Unless you have a serious need to be more discreet, I would vote for keeping them. There is something about the understated elegant black combining with the decal that is appealing.

Incidentally, you have a car that isn't a problem with your driveway, but did you consider those widgets that Griot's Garage sells for us exotic owners? They lie at the transition from road to drive and provide a low-departure angle transition, while keeping drainage through internal channels.

We live in the country with no paved gutters, but I've been thinking about one of those for the time when Summer comes and the county roads people grade us again for drainage. They'll scrape away the nice level transition I sweet-talked out of the most recent construction crew laying pipe nearby. After that, this C2S may start clipping the sharp edge the grader leaves unless I pay some healthy youngster to knock it flat with a pickaxe and rake. I had to do that annually with the NSX and I grow weary. That gadget might solve the problem as the country grader is surprisingly courteous about skirting such devices.

If you considered it, what did you think?

Gary
that's funny. i pretty much agree with the decal pov but they are growing on me a bit. it's not reasonable for me to say i want an understated car and drive a 911, but i'd like to avoid any perception of flaunting it. it's bad enough that i have a broken leg and park in the handicapped spot at work with a brand new car in this economy !!!

the slope into my garage is unsolveable without major excavation. my home is carved into a hillside and the driveway slopes down and to the left dramatically down into the garage. to the right is a rockery that's been in place for about 70 years. if you can imagine that as i'm describing it, imagine the garage door coming down exactly where the gradient changes and levels out.

probably, it's a good thing i can't get a lower car because it's a nice limiting factor on my spending

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I will be astonished if you can manage to heat stress a set of carbon ceramics in the Northwest Summer. Actually, I'd be pretty damn surprised to hear someone managed it here running at Willow with 140 F track temps. Do you really think it might be an issue?

Gary
the issue is that we normally do have very mild summers - but will get hammered with some very high temps periodically. i warped a set of steel brakes last summer. i'll freely admit i'm being paranoid here but the downside of hammering the pccb's is far more expensive than steels.

i drove the pccbs hard at PSDS with no issues so i have very high confidence in them or i would not have purchased them.
 
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I like the decals. Makes the car look unique.
 
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the car looks great !

Let us know how u like ur ceramics after some track time.

let's make it 51/49.. i say no to the decal.

on ur black/black, it takes away from the sleek profile..
 
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Great car, I'm torn on the decals

I like them but also think the car looks super classy without them. Cant wait to see the black wheels as I have almost the identical car sans decals and ceramic breaks.

enjoy her
 
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Originally Posted by brendo
the issue is that we normally do have very mild summers - but will get hammered with some very high temps periodically. i warped a set of steel brakes last summer. i'll freely admit i'm being paranoid here but the downside of hammering the pccb's is far more expensive than steels.

i drove the pccbs hard at PSDS with no issues so i have very high confidence in them or i would not have purchased them.
I look forward to hearing how they work. They should do fine, but you might be right about changing the pads to get a combination better suited to track work. I once managed to turn a set of street pads into cute little bunsen burners behind each wheel. Disks were fine, but I was getting a little fade there at the end. I don't know if Porsche had to choose a compromise compound for the stock pads to make the ceramics more congenial for daily use.


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