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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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price aside, kinda like comparing a .25 auto to a .44 Magnum................
 
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I LOVE the idea about the classic 911 RS and the beautiful woman. Nothing like turning someone's marketing idea on it's ear. Like that billboard Audi put up a couple of years ago with an A4 "Your Move BMW" and a BMW dealer put up right across the street a picture of an M3 and: "Checkmate."

http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/04/13/bi...r-bmw-vs-audi/

Classic!
 
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Should Porsche win, McDowell will sport a shirt saying the Porsche is faster than the Mini. McDowell even throws in a Porsche-gets-bald-guys-laid joke.

If I were Porsche, I would ignore these kind of juvenile challenges.

If Mini is really serious about the challenge, then build a car and race it against Porsche in ALMS like Ferrari, (its big brother) BMW, Aston Martin, etc. do.
 
Old Jun 8, 2010 | 01:13 AM
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Other than the obvious statistics..horsepower, torque etc etc....the do share one thing in common. They are both fun to drive. I bought a moderately equiped Cooper S for 23.5k last month. It is a blast to drive and it gets 35mpg. Maybe a JCW will be my next daily driver.
 
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I have a '09 997.2 C2S and a '10 Cooper S as a DD. The Cooper is a hoot to drive, probably about as much fun as you can get in a $30K car. It does feel go-kart like with its responsiveness. The steering is really precise, but it has a choppy ride and does this little dance sideways if you hit a pothole or other bump in a corner. The Mini folks better pick a very short, very curvy/tight course if it's going to beat the Porsche.
 
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Tacky. I can't imagine Porsche doing this, it's win-win for Mini and lose-lose for Porsche.

I would love to see some more serious stock car racing though. 911 vs M3 and GTR would be a great race.
that's actually already been done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaYKSd6q6ps
 
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I agree, Sabines the girl, and a 37 year old Porsche ought to do the trick.
 
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If I'm following my wife when she's driving her Mini Cooper, I have trouble keeping up in my 911.

I drove her Mini at the track and it wanted to tail slide around EVERY SINGLE corner. Great fun.
 
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Porsche's help bald guys get women! I guess this guy and Stacy know that all too well. I guess not as many women are making it his way anymore, as he needs to prove something. I do agree with Porsche, there is something up with this challenge!
 
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Originally Posted by Alan
I have a '09 997.2 C2S and a '10 Cooper S as a DD. The Cooper is a hoot to drive, probably about as much fun as you can get in a $30K car. It does feel go-kart like with its responsiveness. The steering is really precise, but it has a choppy ride and does this little dance sideways if you hit a pothole or other bump in a corner. The Mini folks better pick a very short, very curvy/tight course if it's going to beat the Porsche.
minis are popular at auto-x, it is very curvy/tight, but not or a single time I saw instructors in mini outrunning top porsche drivers.
 
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Dear Jim,

Imagine our surprise to discover our former employee, now the head of Mini, has challenged us to a head-to-head race. As you surely know, Porsche has a long history of racing success, with more than 28,000 wins over the last 60 years. In our early days, we pitted ourselves against the giants, so we've been in your shoes.

But as you also know, Porsche doesn't race for fame, stunts or publicity. We race to challenge ourselves; we race to push sports car technology; we race to translate every win on the track to our cars on the road. If you
need a reminder of our intent, please take a look at this short video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh3A1ERsvY4

While your challenge seems like a fun and lighthearted campaign, we'll stick to racing the way we have over the decades. We welcome you at Sebring, Le Mans, Daytona or any other sanctioned race where there is more at stake than T-shirts and valet parking spaces. We also invite you to any of the thousands of tracks around the world where Porsche owners compete each weekend.

Good luck with your race at Road Atlanta on June 21; we hope you enjoy the day.

Sincerely,
Detlev Von Platen
President and CEO, Porsche Cars North America
 
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Good response.
 
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Dear Jim,

Imagine our surprise to discover our former employee, now the head of Mini, has challenged us to a head-to-head race. As you surely know, Porsche has a long history of racing success, with more than 28,000 wins over the last 60 years. In our early days, we pitted ourselves against the giants, so we've been in your shoes.

But as you also know, Porsche doesn't race for fame, stunts or publicity. We race to challenge ourselves; we race to push sports car technology; we race to translate every win on the track to our cars on the road. If you
need a reminder of our intent, please take a look at this short video:

<video link>

While your challenge seems like a fun and lighthearted campaign, we'll stick to racing the way we have over the decades. We welcome you at Sebring, Le Mans, Daytona or any other sanctioned race where there is more at stake than T-shirts and valet parking spaces. We also invite you to any of the thousands of tracks around the world where Porsche owners compete each weekend.

Good luck with your race at Road Atlanta on June 21; we hope you enjoy the day.

Sincerely,
Detlev Von Platen
President and CEO, Porsche Cars North America

Perfect reply.
 

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Awesome. Classy and reminds people what Porsche is really about.

Kudos to Porsche's PR team.
 
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Mini's are great, I've been looking at purchasing a JCW since they came out...every time that I go for a test drive, I absolutely love them but then I look at the dash...and can't never get past it.
Most 911s these days are souped up Toyotas, simple and bland...they allow the average guy feel like a "driver". The truth is that Porsche lost it long ago (exceptions are the GT 2, 3 and TT...perhaps even the Cayman). Porsche has been living off of their glory and history for many years...
Fun cars? I purchased an STI for a daily driver since my 930 is too much of a beast to DD...fun, nimble, unassuming and with a couple of modifications, I can outrun just about everything on the road. YMMV.
 


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