Battery Not Charging 997 S, New Alternator and Battery
#16
I seem to be having this problem as well- Does anyone know if the issue is usually isolated to the Alternator <> Starter main wire, or possibly also the main wire from side of transmission connection block <> alternator?
I have read posts in different threads on both of these specific wires having issue.
AFAIK, the main wire from alternator to battery runs to a terminal block in the passenger footwell, the next segment from there terminates on the passenger side of the transmission area, then the last segment runs to the alternator. The last segment is apparently an issue with getting burned up by engine heat, and it appears the wire between alternator and starter is as well.
does this sound about right?
I have read posts in different threads on both of these specific wires having issue.
AFAIK, the main wire from alternator to battery runs to a terminal block in the passenger footwell, the next segment from there terminates on the passenger side of the transmission area, then the last segment runs to the alternator. The last segment is apparently an issue with getting burned up by engine heat, and it appears the wire between alternator and starter is as well.
does this sound about right?
#17
replacing 997 defective battery / alternator cable
I seem to be having this problem as well- Does anyone know if the issue is usually isolated to the Alternator <> Starter main wire, or possibly also the main wire from side of transmission connection block <> alternator?
I have read posts in different threads on both of these specific wires having issue.
AFAIK, the main wire from alternator to battery runs to a terminal block in the passenger footwell, the next segment from there terminates on the passenger side of the transmission area, then the last segment runs to the alternator. The last segment is apparently an issue with getting burned up by engine heat, and it appears the wire between alternator and starter is as well.
does this sound about right?
I have read posts in different threads on both of these specific wires having issue.
AFAIK, the main wire from alternator to battery runs to a terminal block in the passenger footwell, the next segment from there terminates on the passenger side of the transmission area, then the last segment runs to the alternator. The last segment is apparently an issue with getting burned up by engine heat, and it appears the wire between alternator and starter is as well.
does this sound about right?
The junction block by transmission also terminates the main cable which runs up to the battery.
Sunset Porsche in Portland has the part for 2006 6speed 997 priced at $89. Tips require a different cable. It is more common for the 6speed replacement part to be in stock, tip is usually special order (I don't know why, that is what I was told).
Hope this helps!
#18
My Porsche dealer replaced the starter wiring harness under warranty on my 2006 C2S at 15,300 miles. Now 2 1/2 years later with the car out of warranty at 25,000 miles I am having the exact same issues with battery drain. My guess is the cause is exactly the same as before namely a defective starter wiring harness which is caused by excessive heating. Does anyone have any experience with Porsche honoring the repair of a warranty repair after the warranty period has expired?
#19
It was my understanding that the replacement cables are heavier and so therefore should not fail like the original cables did. Are you sure your battery isn't failing?
#20
Hi Ken - the battery was replaced at the time of the starter wiring harness replacement three years ago. I've driven the car faithfully 3 - 4 times a weeks - never less than 10 - 15 miles per drive. I will know the final verdict Monday when the folks at Dieter's return from the long weekend.
#21
The battery cable issue is a known problem with early 2005 997s. It was a defect from the manufacturer when Porsche subbed out the part. The cable has to much voltage coming over it for the cable to handle. This is why the newer cable is thicker. You know you have this problemm on your car if at the starter, there is either corrosion or black charring. The car will act like the battery is dead when in fact it is not. Turn the key off and try turning the engine over again. In most cases it will start. Hope this helps.
#22
Great thread guys! Unfortunately, my car is at the dealer right now getting the alternator cable replaced for the same issue! My car is an '05 Carrera S (launch edition - very early model 997) with 44k miles.
For comparison, the dealer here in Atlanta is charging about $120 for the cable and $1080 for the labor. Yes, this is a very labor-intensive job but I know I have the right people working on it.
My car was also slow to crank, more noticeable when the engine is warm. I got stranded out shopping 3 months ago, so had the car jumped and then replaced the battery. Same thing happened Christmas Eve while out shopping - the car wouldn't start. This told me I had bigger problems so I took it in. Thanks for all the good information in this thread!
Let's all keep our fingers crossed that maybe one day PCNA will issue an official recall and reimburse all of us who have paid out of pocket.
For comparison, the dealer here in Atlanta is charging about $120 for the cable and $1080 for the labor. Yes, this is a very labor-intensive job but I know I have the right people working on it.
My car was also slow to crank, more noticeable when the engine is warm. I got stranded out shopping 3 months ago, so had the car jumped and then replaced the battery. Same thing happened Christmas Eve while out shopping - the car wouldn't start. This told me I had bigger problems so I took it in. Thanks for all the good information in this thread!
Let's all keep our fingers crossed that maybe one day PCNA will issue an official recall and reimburse all of us who have paid out of pocket.
#23
2006 997 with melted battery cable
My 2006 911 has been slow to start, having to use a "trickler" overnight every couple weeks. I had the battery checked out OK, but the alternator was only at 12.9 instead of 14.0? I took it to McKenna Porsche in Norwalk and they said the battery cable melted and it will cost $3,200 because they have to remove the engine!
I have 70,000 miles and had it thoroughly checked just before my warranty expired at 60,000 last August. This is outrageous...any suggestions?
I have 70,000 miles and had it thoroughly checked just before my warranty expired at 60,000 last August. This is outrageous...any suggestions?
#27
I have the exact same issue on my '06 4s Cab. I've replaced the battery and still having problems. Looks like I will be heading to the shop next week for a new cable. I sure hope its not $3,200 like someone said - $1,200 is bad enough. You would think that this would be some kind of recall with all the issues.
#28
997 alternator / battery cable
I forgot to update my situation. As I mentioned in my earlier post, McKenna Porsche quoted $3200 to replace the cables because they have to drop the engine. I contacted Porsche of North America personally and explained the situation; they agreed to pay 100% of the replacement!
I think this decision had a lot to do with my 60,000 mile check-up that I documented the alternator was not charging the battery (the dealer thought they fixed it by replacing the battery). If I did not document this problem in writing 10,000 miles earlier, I doubt if porsche would have agreed to fix it.
Let this be a lesson for all of us....make certain you mention any and all problems (list it on the work order) when the car is still under warranty
I think this decision had a lot to do with my 60,000 mile check-up that I documented the alternator was not charging the battery (the dealer thought they fixed it by replacing the battery). If I did not document this problem in writing 10,000 miles earlier, I doubt if porsche would have agreed to fix it.
Let this be a lesson for all of us....make certain you mention any and all problems (list it on the work order) when the car is still under warranty
#29
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