Opinion needed: GTS or TT
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Opinion needed: GTS or TT
I thought I have decided on a TT just last week but now spending a little more time to lurk around, I am starting to think that a GTS may be an option I should consider. What I have going for the GTS is:
- Wide Body RWD
- Packaged deal (my wife feels that there is more "value") and we actually likes the items included over a C2S
- Simpilcity/subdue
- small degree of exclusivity (as of now, I know this may change)
As for the TT:
- It is a Turbo what else can I say...
- more agressive styling (+ for me and - for wife)
- AWD: + for safety IMO but - for pure fun
- Long term maintenance may be higher (??)
This will probably be my "last" 911 for a long time until after my kids are in college so I want to make it right. And I do plan to keep it long term since it will mostly be my wife's alternative car to pick up my kids from/to school and our family's weekend fun car with me as the weekend driver. I do not plan to track the car, however, both my wife and myself enjoy great handling fun cars. My wife's current car is a Cayenne and that's how she got convinced to let me get a 911.
I have started out with looking for only a base C2 as a toy for myself and having been moving dangerously fast towards a Turbo S. My original plan was to go in to the dealer and put in my TT order next week and now I need to decide which one to get (again) !!!
Any pluses and minues for both of these options base on my situation? Any feedbacks will be very much appreciated.
- Wide Body RWD
- Packaged deal (my wife feels that there is more "value") and we actually likes the items included over a C2S
- Simpilcity/subdue
- small degree of exclusivity (as of now, I know this may change)
As for the TT:
- It is a Turbo what else can I say...
- more agressive styling (+ for me and - for wife)
- AWD: + for safety IMO but - for pure fun
- Long term maintenance may be higher (??)
This will probably be my "last" 911 for a long time until after my kids are in college so I want to make it right. And I do plan to keep it long term since it will mostly be my wife's alternative car to pick up my kids from/to school and our family's weekend fun car with me as the weekend driver. I do not plan to track the car, however, both my wife and myself enjoy great handling fun cars. My wife's current car is a Cayenne and that's how she got convinced to let me get a 911.
I have started out with looking for only a base C2 as a toy for myself and having been moving dangerously fast towards a Turbo S. My original plan was to go in to the dealer and put in my TT order next week and now I need to decide which one to get (again) !!!
Any pluses and minues for both of these options base on my situation? Any feedbacks will be very much appreciated.
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If you want a Turbo S I am sure your dealer can locate one out there at a nice discount. Perfect time to be a clean buyer. I like GTS, but for me Turbo S is a no brainer money not being a major issue of course. Power is ridiculous a true keeper car. GTS is nice, but new 911 will be out in Fall. New Turbo prob year after. Big difference in price, but go for exactly what you want.
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Living up here in Canada, I would go with the TT. They can be driven all year round with proper snow shoes on. Turbo engines love the cooler temperature. But I am not a huge fan of the turbo front end design, especially the fog lights sticking out of the front bumper.
If I live in California, I would go with the GTS. To me, RWD widebody is the classic 911 formula. My gut feeling is that it will hold its value better than the Turbo. If you don't care much about resell value, then more power can be added with supercharger/turbo kit.
If I live in California, I would go with the GTS. To me, RWD widebody is the classic 911 formula. My gut feeling is that it will hold its value better than the Turbo. If you don't care much about resell value, then more power can be added with supercharger/turbo kit.
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Why not look at a GT3? More power than the GTS and no heavy awd machinery (and associated soft feel) and low red-line of the TT. The wider rear end is a draw but with the wing and other aero parts make it the dreaming winner of the bunch.
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GTS as an alternative for picking up the kids? That would really be a waste IMHO. A turbo would be better suited as higher mileage examples still hold value. Have you ever experienced a launch controlled 0-60 in a tt? It will blow your mind!
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The wife will never go for the GT3 if the TT is to aggressive an there are no rear seats to pick up the kids.
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Hands down the Turbo S . It's an absolutely incredible car . I love my current Turbo more than any other car i have ever owned but even mine had i kept it stock woild have been traded for the newer car. Now it is tre that the tuners have had more time to develop high Hp kits with the gt1 engine in the 997.1 but the new car comes perfect right from the factory . If I bought the new car .. i would leave it bone stock . It's the way to go !!!!
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Resale is actually less of a concern to me as I mentioned that it'll be a "looooong" time before I will be allowed to consider another 911. 
So by the time to sell, I don't think it will make a huge difference in terms of percentage retained. I also don't think we'll put a lot miles on the car, my guess is 3-4k max a year since my wife's Cayenne only has 9k over 2 years. I am already spoiling myself here even with a base C2S so I am trying to see if I should really get a TT. Since I am planning to keep the car for long haul, I just don't want to have buyer's remorse 2-3 years down the road. However, I have a feeling that any 911 I get today will still keep me happy down the road.
So by the time to sell, I don't think it will make a huge difference in terms of percentage retained. I also don't think we'll put a lot miles on the car, my guess is 3-4k max a year since my wife's Cayenne only has 9k over 2 years. I am already spoiling myself here even with a base C2S so I am trying to see if I should really get a TT. Since I am planning to keep the car for long haul, I just don't want to have buyer's remorse 2-3 years down the road. However, I have a feeling that any 911 I get today will still keep me happy down the road.Last edited by llngoc; Dec 26, 2010 at 12:19 AM.
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Yes, the RWD widebody is what draws me to the GTS and I feel that it may be more fun to drive than the TT. However, the TT may be my only chance to ever own an almost exotic/super car. My wife will never go with a F car and I am not even considering it. However, the Turbo has been a childhood dream for the last few decades and now I have a real chance to get it. Decisions, decisions, ...
Living up here in Canada, I would go with the TT. They can be driven all year round with proper snow shoes on. Turbo engines love the cooler temperature. But I am not a huge fan of the turbo front end design, especially the fog lights sticking out of the front bumper.
If I live in California, I would go with the GTS. To me, RWD widebody is the classic 911 formula. My gut feeling is that it will hold its value better than the Turbo. If you don't care much about resell value, then more power can be added with supercharger/turbo kit.
If I live in California, I would go with the GTS. To me, RWD widebody is the classic 911 formula. My gut feeling is that it will hold its value better than the Turbo. If you don't care much about resell value, then more power can be added with supercharger/turbo kit.
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I think the choice depends on how you would like to use the car.
In support of TT:
1) I need to be able to smoke the guy next to me when I pull away from a red light
2) 4wd is useful for me (snow or similar situation where 4wd gives value)
3) wide body/rear spoiler improves the look for me
Why go with GTS
1) Prefer light front end feel of 2wd Carerra's
2) As the car is really sensitive to weight transfer in corners, I want linear throttle response.
3) Potential that it is collectible
If you buy a car because others give you recomendations, you are asking for trouble. Think about how you are going to use the car and it should help you decide between models...
In support of TT:
1) I need to be able to smoke the guy next to me when I pull away from a red light
2) 4wd is useful for me (snow or similar situation where 4wd gives value)
3) wide body/rear spoiler improves the look for me
Why go with GTS
1) Prefer light front end feel of 2wd Carerra's
2) As the car is really sensitive to weight transfer in corners, I want linear throttle response.
3) Potential that it is collectible
If you buy a car because others give you recomendations, you are asking for trouble. Think about how you are going to use the car and it should help you decide between models...
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I agree that asking for other people's opinion may be the wrong thing to do. In fact my wife has refused to provide any input in this matter anymore and just told me to get the car so she can rest. 
I think the choice depends on how you would like to use the car.
In support of TT:
1) I need to be able to smoke the guy next to me when I pull away from a red light
2) 4wd is useful for me (snow or similar situation where 4wd gives value)
3) wide body/rear spoiler improves the look for me
Why go with GTS
1) Prefer light front end feel of 2wd Carerra's
2) As the car has is really sensitive to weight transfer in corners, I want linear throttle response.
3) Potential that it is collectible
If you buy a car because others tell give you recomendations, you are asking for trouble. Think about how you are going to use the car and it should help you decide between models...
In support of TT:
1) I need to be able to smoke the guy next to me when I pull away from a red light
2) 4wd is useful for me (snow or similar situation where 4wd gives value)
3) wide body/rear spoiler improves the look for me
Why go with GTS
1) Prefer light front end feel of 2wd Carerra's
2) As the car has is really sensitive to weight transfer in corners, I want linear throttle response.
3) Potential that it is collectible
If you buy a car because others tell give you recomendations, you are asking for trouble. Think about how you are going to use the car and it should help you decide between models...
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have you driven the turbo? If not...that would be a logical next step.
I have driven 2. One was stock...fast fast fast but felt dead and spongy at the corners. The other had some supsension tweaks and had a good feel. Not a huge sample size, but might imply that turbo's need some suspension work...
Something to think about....
I have driven 2. One was stock...fast fast fast but felt dead and spongy at the corners. The other had some supsension tweaks and had a good feel. Not a huge sample size, but might imply that turbo's need some suspension work...
Something to think about....
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Was the stock with SC set to Sports or Sports Plus?
have you driven the turbo? If not...that would be a logical next step.
I have driven 2. One was stock...fast fast fast but felt dead and spongy at the corners. The other had some supsension tweaks and had a good feel. Not a huge sample size, but might imply that turbo's need some suspension work...
Something to think about....
I have driven 2. One was stock...fast fast fast but felt dead and spongy at the corners. The other had some supsension tweaks and had a good feel. Not a huge sample size, but might imply that turbo's need some suspension work...
Something to think about....
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I think the choice depends on how you would like to use the car.
In support of TT:
1) I need to be able to smoke the guy next to me when I pull away from a red light
2) 4wd is useful for me (snow or similar situation where 4wd gives value)
3) wide body/rear spoiler improves the look for me
Why go with GTS
1) Prefer light front end feel of 2wd Carerra's
2) As the car is really sensitive to weight transfer in corners, I want linear throttle response.
3) Potential that it is collectible
If you buy a car because others give you recomendations, you are asking for trouble. Think about how you are going to use the car and it should help you decide between models...
In support of TT:
1) I need to be able to smoke the guy next to me when I pull away from a red light
2) 4wd is useful for me (snow or similar situation where 4wd gives value)
3) wide body/rear spoiler improves the look for me
Why go with GTS
1) Prefer light front end feel of 2wd Carerra's
2) As the car is really sensitive to weight transfer in corners, I want linear throttle response.
3) Potential that it is collectible
If you buy a car because others give you recomendations, you are asking for trouble. Think about how you are going to use the car and it should help you decide between models...
4) The sound of the Turbo spool makes the car feel like a low level flying spaceship.
5) The acceleration is like a sledgehammer . It's face smearing ability defies the senses.
6) To have such ability yet become so quiet and civilized at 20 MPH in traffic adds this element of luxury to it's power making it the ultimate cruise machine.
The Turbo S -- leaves no doubts !!!
Wait --Edit -- The only thing better than a Turbo is to add a GT3RS.