Hmm, going to have to disagree with you on this one. Cabs are every bit a performance vehicle and Porsche has engineered them to compensate for lack of entire roof structure. Is the Speedster a leisure vehicle? How about a Ferrari Spyder? I know plenty of people with Cabs that exceed 150mph. Are they ideal for racing? No, but a front aerokit, sideskirts, you name it will certainly improve handling and performance and for some, looks.

 

Not all cabs are alike . Even the Speedster (which BTW has no aerokit) is not exactly like the original concept of the car . Earlier versions were these stripped down cars and todays Speedster has every bell and whistle and is quite bloated in contrast . The better example might have been a Boxster Spyder which is not in any way an ordinary Boxster Cab . The weight of the car and the manual roof along with the structural changes make it a real perfomance roadster . However it is what it is .. in its particualr class . It is still not a coupe .

In fact if one took a true stripped aerokit couple at the top of the line in peformance it would be the Gt3RS . Match it up to a modern day bloated Speedster and there is no contest .

Carlitos car is a 997S Cab . It has a mechanical roof with much heavier weight . It does not have structural changes to gear it to the same level of performance with the cars you mention. Even the cars you named have no aerokit . Placing an aerokit on his car without some type of purpose makes no sense other than for show .. but it doesn't even look cool . It looks like someone played Mr Potato head with a 997 and on top of all that it's expensive .

 

What? No Aerokit on the Speedster? No peformance benefit? Looks ugly? These are all opinions and should be noted as such.

The facts are:

1) The Speedster has an Aerokit
2) The aerokit front bumper creates downforce as intended and that will benefit a Cab as well as a Coupe.

 

Word... the speedster does in fact share the 997.2 Aerokit front end which is nearly identical to the GT3/RS front facia aside from the slats (vice mesh) in the side intakes and the use of a milder lower lip section. The 997.2 front bumpers can get confusing given there is now a Sport Classic, Sport Design, Aerokit, Speedster, GTS, GT3 and GT3RS... they are all almost identical with minor differences.

Jason

 

Those front ends have similarities but even a slight difference is significant to an orogibal design purpose . The width of the car is also significant .

I've seen first hand a Gt3RS bumper on a (narrow body) base 997 (see pic below) . It may look like it fits ..but does not fit without some minimal overhang . To me it looks much different than a Speedster (slats are mesh , lip is different) . It looks even less like a 997.1 Gt3 .


I tend to think of an aerokit as having a wing in the rear (like Techart /Speedart/etc) but i do see how ntlgnt1 called the Speedster an aerokit ..
So I stand corrected


Not that any of this makes any sense to me on a 997,1S Cab is more like a distant cousin to a 997.2 Speedster.

 

Larry,

This one i dont agreee on ......Joeshark car is hawt!

 

I guess it's just different strokes .

I don't think it's just that i view the Cab more as a leisure car . I even feel that the coupe 997.2 aerokit looks almost like it was an afterthought compared to how beautiful the Gt3 and gt3 RS kits were designed. i did not buy an aerokit for my 997.2S and won't buy one.

I view the 997S as a very well rounded car but no matter what mods are done .. it just can never be a Gt3RS or a GT3 .

If this is what he likes .. I wish him well .

 

I am not sure what you are saying here.

That front end is a GT3.2 or GT3RS.2 front bumper. They are identical minus the RS flares with the RS or GT3 Cup front splitter. The front width of the two bumpers is exactly the same. Porsche added some "flare" (pun intended) with its stick on fender pieces for the RS. I will admit the Cup front splitter painted does not fit that car. I do not even like 997.1 Cup splitters when they are painted. They are too big and wide for that.

Personally I am not a fan of Cabs in general and would only probably own one as a second car. The GTS Cab boggles my mind as I believe the GTS should be strictly a coupe. I guess I also believe that the Cabs are less sporting models when compared to the body rigidity of the coupes. Thats just me but to each his own. I have seen Cabs in person with GT3 front conversions I like it but if it were mine I would going with something a little more subtle.

Jason

 

i have the gt3 kit on my c4s and couldn't be happier. the only thing that is semi-annoying is how chewed up the plastic bit is - but the low look that you get makes up for it

 

....drool..
that is one beautiful looking car !

Larry, i think understand what u r saying.
i also dont want to change the look of my 997 cab to a point where it is not easily recognizable.. nor do i want to use too much added parts to make it a frankenstein.
However, the cab are hardly 'leisure' cars..
ofcourse, compared to GT3, GT3rs, GT2rs, or even a turbo, its prob 'softer'
but its not like i am considering to put a huge wing on my cab (which i may later..haha)
and u gotta admit, the front in the pic above looks 'better' than mine
(and i even want those side skirts !!)

would u say the same thing if i wanted to add a coilovers? or ecu upgrade? or headers ? just asking..

 

i disagree.

 

such as ?
i 'll listen to and consider all ideas

 

I think i understand what you're saying. You don't want the 997.2S to be somekind like wannabe because they're putting a GT3 or GT3RS bumper on 997.2S? eventhough you're putting the GT3RS bumper and have the look of it the car can never be GT3RS. is that what you're trying to say?

 

This is exactly what i am sayng . Even with a 997S coupe it's still a 997S that looks like a Gt3. Wth a Cab I feel it's even more over the top because a Cab in itself is not the same type of performance car .
Ok so maybe a Speedster has some more performance features than other cabs but we are discussing parts on a 997S cab.

If he picked the Techart /Speedart / etc parts at least it's designed for his spefic car . I stil don't feel its worth doing on a 997S cab .

Look -- carlitos is talking coil overs , aserokit, he already has wheels .. by the time he is finished he can spend upward of 100K on his car and it will still be a a 997S . It can't ever be a gt3. It cant ever be a 997.2 spweedster.

Maybe I'm the only one who is trying to save him money.
Or at least to buy the peformance model rather than sink all this money into a 997S and try to make it something it can never be. When he goes tio sell the car and its been mixed and matched this way it can become even harder beause a Cab specific buyer will want a typical cab and a Gt3 buyer will want a Gt3.

In my opinion .. it's not just an upgrade that makes no sense . It's a financial freefall . But if this is what will truly make him happy .. I hope it does... at least he can look at all views of it from this thread and figure out what works best for him .

I do wish him the best .

 

I see what you're trying to say, but you seem to be basing your opinion on looks alone which you're more than entitled to. There are many aspects of performance as we all know...power, weight, aerodynamics, etc. The aerokit is one component of performance and is designed to provide greater downforce and stability at speed. This holds true for any Porsche whether it be a base 997, a GT3RS, or even a Cab. I can tell you that I don't have that 'loose' or 'floaty' front end feeling that many .1 owners complain about because my aerokit is keeping the front end down. It may not be a GT3 but it's not intended to be and those 5000 hours of wind tunnel testing do make a difference on my 997S.

As for the Speedster, I'm still not sure what magical things you think they've done to it. All it is C4S Cab sans AWD with a minor tweak to the windshield slant + Powerkit + PCCB's + Aerokit . The rest of it's 'exclusivity' is cosmetics.