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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 09:11 PM
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..Heres another problem I have...I only drove my FIRST 911 last month and I really have nothing to COMPARE it too..?? as far as Driving another one..and feeling the GOOD ONE from the BAD ONE...??[ things to look for, and so on ]...But i must admit...Once I felt that STEERING CONTROL....I was hooked......!! It aint like my ..1969 H/O...! lol..
 
Old Jul 28, 2011 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by wjohnson36
This is nit-picking, but I noticed that the 'S' on the Rear Decklid isn't in the correct location. This could be as simple as the previous owner wanting something a little unique, or it could be a hint of improper repair after the accident. A good PPI would definitely help when it comes to finding issues of concern though.
The "S" does look like it is in the wrong spot. The tailpipes are round, it has sport setting on the dash and the carfax is referring to it as an "S" so it probably is. Maybe the misplacement is because of the accident was in the rear (report said rear passenger).
 
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no. Rather than extrapolate i'm sure larry will chime in soon and provide in depth reasoning on why you should avoid this car like the plague.

Mileage(>50k), accident, auction are 3 major strikes imo.

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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 10:33 PM
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Take it to a porsche dealer for inspection, if they say its good, offer him 35k cash and problem solved.
 
Old Jul 28, 2011 | 10:50 PM
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You got the fever bad. Cool off a bit then approach it rationally.

Cars go to auction because dealers feel they can't sell them quickly. This could be because someone traded their Porsche in at the Hyundai dealer or because the car has things about it that make it harder to sell, such as accident history or high mileage.

As mentioned by others, I too have seen higher mileage S cars go for slightly less, albeit late last year/early this year. It's not so much the mileage but the history that concerns me more.

If you must have this car, as others have suggested, get a full inspection. I'd also try and negotiate a little off the price, say high 30s might make me feel more comfortable with it.
 
Old Jul 28, 2011 | 10:52 PM
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Edmunds says (using my Denver zip code) that for average condition, it should sell for $36M to $39M. The average can be argued as you being overly fair about it given the accident. The accident occurred in 07 only a year and 3 weeks after the car was purchased and it had less than 14,500 miles on it. If you want the car start communicating via email with the seller. Seller has an eBay transaction count of 568 with 100% positive feedback. Sounds like a good seller who WI want you to be happy. It is a one owner car.

Through your eBay account and then email:

First ask the seller the condition of the tires get a percentage of remaining tread, paint chips and interior or exterior blemishes and if everything works correctly.

Second, ask if they have all the service records and what if bay of the original accessories and manuals are missing.

Third, Ask the seller if they have or will provide a PPI and DME on the car. If they refuse, try to rationalize it by telling them they can use it with any other buyer. If they still refuse (which they will), then ask if you can make any offer you make conditional on a satisfactory PPI and DME with no over revs or other issues. Do everything in writing.

Tell him you like the car and now want to talk to the bank. Come back in two days.

Tell him that the bank discussed the value with you and shared the Edmunds numbers with you and because of the accident and where the value came up you are prepared to pay $33M. When they squawk, tell them that you are on the fence and currently considering a silver cab, that while it is not an S, it has 11,000 less miles on it.

When they tell you you are an idiot, tell them that you know they have not been able to sell the car for that price for some time on eBay and that you have seen a lot of other cars not selling, so that makes you feel the Edmunds numbers are probably pretty good.

After all settles down, tell them, $36M is your absolute top price and you would be willing to go up to $36M if the PPI and DME check out and there gas not been any abuse to the car, else $33M. Provided they already agreed to this above, they should say yes Then you have some room to negotiate and make sure the condition is what they represented.

Don't know if it will work. Don't know if my number is a great deal. I hope you aren't insulted by my sharing my advice, but there it is. Personally if everything checks out, that one owner car might be a sweet deal and a lot of fun. If you decide to go this route, post everything you run into on this thread.
 

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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 11:05 PM
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Oh and what's up with their $300 doc fee? Legally they have to do their docs, it's not our problem.
 
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Take it to a porsche dealer for inspection, if they say its good, offer him 35k cash and problem solved.
Yep.
 
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Check out the guys feedback on eBay. Does not seem to be a sham unless he made up all this 568 profiles that gave him positive feedback and their individual feedbacks too.

Also if he uses eBay to complete the auction, he has $50,000 of buyer protection against it being a sham.
 
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I bought a 2005 Carrera S pretty well optioned (launch car) with 12,000 miles for 52 grand, and no accident history/cherry condition. In my mind the lower miles alone would be worth the delta, not to mention the accident history. I would keep looking.
 
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Originally Posted by DoninDEN
Check out the guys feedback on eBay. Does not seem to be a sham unless he made up all this 568 profiles that gave him positive feedback and their individual feedbacks too.

Also if he uses eBay to complete the auction, he has $50,000 of buyer protection against it being a sham.
I'm not interessted in sitting on yet another thread where 10 forum members say 'pass" and the OP wants to buy the car .

That was the first review found on google (just looking to see) and there are favorable ones too on second glance .

The car has 50K+ miles .
Accident history .
Even if the dealership is fantastic .. what is so great about the car ?

Maybe I have a different philosophy where I feel that a dream car ought to start out with no doubts .

To the OP .. Good lucjk with the car .
 

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Seems like you really want it since your not concernd about the status the cars in just get it then.
 
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I had always heard that if looking at a 911 that has been rear ended, run as fast and as far as you can. If you are planning on getting the car I would seriously investigate that accident history. Rear engined cars differ greatly from club girls, in that they don't like to take it from behind (please excuse my vulgarity).
 
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IMHO........................PASS!

Spend an extra amount without all of these ?'s.
 
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Seems like you really want it since your not concernd about the status the cars in just get it then.
+1. Lot's of good advise here and if you want it then buy it. It would be prudent to perform a PPI and DME scan at a minimum. Chances are everything will be fine but you need to understand there is some risks. But, if you think this is the car and you are happy, then do it. Life it too short to drive yourself crazy with this...... it's just a car (money).
 


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