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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 05:35 PM
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..I've been watchin this car on E-BAY for almost 3 months now and actually seen it in PERSON and its pretty nice..Im almost ready to PULL THE TRIGGER on my first PORSCHE...but..?? Why hasnt this car been SOLD YET..?? Thats probably the only reason it's SCARING me...lol..Is there something Im missing..? mileage seems good and price.......>>>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-...item2566347b16
 
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Accident history, over 50K miles plus auction history = PASS.
 
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..Okay..?? besides those ..3 things...lol...?? Which doesnt bother me so much. ....But if it runs GOOD and LOOKS good isnt that really what matters in the SCHEME of things..??
 
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no...with an accident history you will have a hard time selling it and will lose money...just make sure you pay less for it to compensate
 
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Poor-sche,
I have been in your shoes not that many years ago.
Buying this kind of car (high performance) in spite of its dubious history, based on how it looks, is inviting some potentially very costly issues down the road.

With that said, I like a bargain as much as the next person and I am probably a bit more risk-tolerant than the average.

I would say, IF the seller agrees to an INDEPENDENT PPI, offer him a refundable deposit, with a sale conditional on a successful PPI (Pre Purchase Inspection). Also ask for any service records, repair documentation, etc.

I would expect the inspection to be done by an independent Porsche mechanic and to include frame damage inspection, paint density inspection (see what got repainted), engine compression test, check for any seepages and leaks, etc...

If you get all of the above (estimated cost around $500) and you still like the car after seeing the results (also ask the mechanic for his uncensored opinion), then you can decide whether you want to take the calculated risk, knowing that the car may still suffer catastrophic failure 10 minutes after you drive it off the lot, but at least you will have mitigated most of the risk ahead of time.
 
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no...with an accident history you will have a hard time selling it and will lose money...just make sure you pay less for it to compensate
..Im not too worried about losing on the re-sale...I would think everyone LOSES on re-sale..Especially the GUY who bought this car NEW..And would the price at $ 41,000 already be the low price to compensate..?? if not..? what would be a GOOD price for this CAR the way it stands today..??
 
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Poor-sche,
I have been in your shoes not that many years ago.
Buying this kind of car (high performance) in spite of its dubious history, based on how it looks, is inviting some potentially very costly issues down the road.

With that said, I like a bargain as much as the next person and I am probably a bit more risk-tolerant than the average.

I would say, IF the seller agrees to an INDEPENDENT PPI, offer him a refundable deposit, with a sale conditional on a successful PPI (Pre Purchase Inspection). Also ask for any service records, repair documentation, etc.

I would expect the inspection to be done by an independent Porsche mechanic and to include frame damage inspection, paint density inspection (see what got repainted), engine compression test, check for any seepages and leaks, etc...

If you get all of the above (estimated cost around $500) and you still like the car after seeing the results (also ask the mechanic for his uncensored opinion), then you can decide whether you want to take the calculated risk, knowing that the car may still suffer catastrophic failure 10 minutes after you drive it off the lot, but at least you will have mitigated most of the risk ahead of time.
....Thanks for the advice..Im the kinda guy who buys things " INSTANTLY "..and this is the only KINDA CAR I actually took the time to SIMMER DOWN and wait on..But then again..I own Muscle Cars and had gotten Lucky on buying those so far..but these kinda cars , Im CLULESS ON and thats why I'm a LIL SCARED...lol..especially reading how FINICKY these engines are..I just feel frustrated cause I have NO PATIENCE...and I really want one of these cars, so that OBSTRUCTS my JUDGEMENT..!! lol...
 
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Obviously, the price is already discounted. In today's market, a mint car with the same miles would be $52K or thereabouts.

So get the PPI done, so you know what's what and then make your decision
 
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This is nit-picking, but I noticed that the 'S' on the Rear Decklid isn't in the correct location. This could be as simple as the previous owner wanting something a little unique, or it could be a hint of improper repair after the accident. A good PPI would definitely help when it comes to finding issues of concern though.
 
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I agree with everyone else, the fact that it has an accident report and 50K miles, it's going to be tough to ever sell it, look it's been there for 3 months and it's still there. You are going to have similar experience if you ever try to sell it. $41K is a good deal, not great. I've seen no history high mileage C2S sold for $42K over a year ago. Prices has gone up since. You can always wait to see what prices are like when the 991 comes out. My guess is that car might still be there. People who has $40K to spend on a car usually don't mind spending a little more to get a car w/o history. The accident could be a minor fender bender and needed the bumper replaces but the fact is, it will always be on record. And people will only take the risk if the price is extra low.
 
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..Okay..?? besides those ..3 things...lol...?? Which doesnt bother me so much. ....But if it runs GOOD and LOOKS good isnt that really what matters in the SCHEME of things..??
No. Rather than extrapolate I'm sure Larry will chime in soon and provide in depth reasoning on why you should avoid this car like the plague.

Mileage(>50K), accident, auction are 3 major strikes IMO.
 
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Here's how I would look at a porsche in comparison to a muscle car. It's a precision instrument. It handles the way it does because of precise engineering & it squeezes incredible power out of a comparably small engine by precise engineering.

Accidents compromise the integrity of that engineering. Depending on what was damaged, and how it was repaired, it could be a serious detriment to the performance of the car by even the slightest compromise to that precision.

Maybe that risk is worth the price to you. Most, myself included, would not go there. If it's a matter of money, keep saving.... you'll never regret waiting and buying a better car.
 
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I will just say don't get Porsche dust in your eyes and cloud your vision. It is very easy to do. I would look for a different car. Too many red flags.
 
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...Decisions, Decisions, Decisions......My heads spinnin right now..!! And I really do appreciate everyones INPUT..!! and I too, have a hesitant feeling about this car...Thats is why I posted this Thread..!! just another question?? What are some of the reason these cars go to AUCTION..?? cant be ALL BAD right..??lol..Loan defaults..??etc..etc
 
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Originally Posted by Hella-Buggin'
Here's how I would look at a porsche in comparison to a muscle car. It's a precision instrument. It handles the way it does because of precise engineering & it squeezes incredible power out of a comparably small engine by precise engineering.

Accidents compromise the integrity of that engineering. Depending on what was damaged, and how it was repaired, it could be a serious detriment to the performance of the car by even the slightest compromise to that precision.

Maybe that risk is worth the price to you. Most, myself included, would not go there. If it's a matter of money, keep saving.... you'll never regret waiting and buying a better car.
....Never thought about it being like that, but...Your RIGHT..!! They do fine tune these and get every lil bit out them because of there precision..Thanks for SHEDDING some LIGHT..!!
 


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