I just did the same thing 2 weeks ago. I traded in my GTR for a new 2011 Carrera S with every possible option including PDK, black painted wheels and Guards Red custom painted gauge faces. I was able to buy it for 15K under MSRP, thus saving over 20K over a comparably equipped 2012 model. Even if you think that the 2012 model is a significant improvement (and I do not), the savings is more than worth it.

 

Any concern with wanting to wait to see what bugs they may need work out of the 991?

 

Sounds like a sweet car! Sorry for the side questions off topic, but because I've thought about getting one,

What are your overall thoughts about the GTR? What is making you move to a C2S from a GTR?

Thanks!

 

I owned the GTR for over 3 years as my car was in the first batch that were delivered in the U.S. Mine had 540whp and 531wtq. I loved the fact that it was a beast and a sub 11 second car in the quarter. It was also a great car to track. People wanted to talk to me about it everywhere I went. However, I thought it was time for a change. It was not, imo, great as a daily driver. I had owned several 911s in the past and really wanted a more civilized road car. I do miss it but I do not regret making the change.

 

Thanks! Sounds like the ride and the gear range made daily traffic more work than fun.

Anyone concerned about launch year bugs in the 991? I know there is a warranty, but who has the time to deal with problems?

 

I will wait for 2013 model which is the 50th Anniversary anyway. Turbo and Convertible should be available too by then.

 

+2. I'm going to wait for MY2 to procure my 991. Looks like I'm going from my C2S to a base 991 C2. PDK/SC/PSE/sun roof/oh noes it's Bose/ventilated seats sure add a lot to the price

 

surfah...I priced out the 991 C2S I wanted and landed north of $121K!! Wow...expensive upgrades! That is almost 3x more than I just paid for my 06 C2 used!! I hope the stock market recovers in the next 2 years! I will need the gains to make up the difference. I may have to wait for lease returns.

 

Yep, my 991 c2s priced out north of $120k too. $30k more than my loaded 07 c2s sticker. One option is to go used 991 but then you are waiting until 2014-15 possibly and you may not get the exact options you want. With the base I can keep it at $100k. Get the exact options I want.

 

Well all I can say is I've had 911's for over 12 years going back to the first 996 to the 997.1, 997 Targa, 997.2, 997.2S 997.2 C4S with PDK. I know many have had Porsches much longer but I can and will say the GTS is by far and away the best 911 I've had. It is the most engaging and purest Porsche short of the dedicated GT Porsches. It is an awesome Porsche. I find myself finding excuses to go somewhere just to drive it.

We are convinced (me, myself and I) that the 997GTS will be a very desireable 911 in years to come. Its just that good and produced in far less numbers then the standard 997.2 and S.

I'm sure the 991 will be a great car and there will be a bump in performance...but I don't buy the 7:40 Ring time for a 991S. No way. 15 more hp and longer wheel base and wider track puts it in same league as a 997GT3 and 997 Turbo? Sorry. I'll wait for more independent test times to come out. Not drinking that Koolaide.

 

Don't get me wrong. I think the GTS is a beautiful car, which is why I almost pulled the trigger. I liked that the GTS had LSD, which was impossible to find on a carrera s. And the GTS has more hp than the 991. At the end of the day, I wanted the 991 more.

And if I were looking for value, I wouldn't be shopping for a porsche (I'd probably buy a m3 sedan for 55k and do Euro Delivery for even more savings. Great value!). For me personally, the savings did not outweight having a new shiny 991. I'd love to save a buck, but I'd be losing more because I would have traded it in and taken a bath on the trade-in value. But again, that just works for me and not for everyone else.

Lastly, I do buy that all the technology related wizardry shaved off 13 seconds. I do think porsche specifically gave a more conservative estimate so it doesn't creep on the gt3 on the n'ring and canabalize sales. That is just the cynnicism within me that makes me question the 991 time too but in the opposite direction of where Waxer is speculating.

 

The new 991 is ~ 3% faster than a similarly equipped 997.2 in the hands of an expert. Buy the car you like, and enjoy it now, time is a ticking away.

 

I am going to wait for the 991.2.8.7. I will get a car 8 years and six months and 20 days from now because the model I want will be like 20-30 grand.

 

Eh, I don't mind waiting. I don't want take a bath on the trade in value. I'd rather stay stinky and smelly.

 

I heard from a good source that not all build slots are full as we speak, obviously dealers will have to give specs at a given time but so far there are plenty of 991 build slots open...

I don't think the 991 is going to start as strong as expected, just look at the 997 Speedster, I see a couple here and there still at the stealerships