PS - Clear Bra should be no more than $750.00, I should know they did my Touareg, original was $1,200.00 installed. Also, get ahold of Ryan, much better guy.

 

Also there are two alike White 911's.

 

that`s what it means in reality to buy a car without looking at it with your own eyes. 790 miles instead of 38, used instead of new, but getting sold for a price of a new one.

pretty funny indeed. 'good salesmen' practices my a$$.

 

I'm learning as I go, but in the end I will personally inspect a car before I hand over the check. That will be clearly understood before I ever set foot onto any dealership.

One miscue and I'm outta there!

 

So, in CA, the doc fees are something the DMV charges, and non negotiable... and the Doc Prep Fees are like $60-$75, which I pay for the finance company. Basically, I think your offer was completely silly, you're asking them to sell you the car for over $12k off invoice where there is little, if any, trunk money on them. No reason a dealer would take a $7-8k loss just to sell you the car.

$86500 is probably still a bit above what they'd actually sell you the car for. But, CPO is a fixed cost to them (that they can mark up) but $2500 means it's not marked up. If they could wave the inspection, and sell you the car for $85k + $2500 for CPO, I think that is a pretty good deal.

That said, this is a car that has had 768 miles of hard test drive use on it Personally, if I thought I wasn't going to keep the car very long, I'd still do it, but if I wanted a car to keep until the warranty expired, I would definitely not buy it. sounds like you've come to the same conclusion.

The other thing to check is to see about leasing, with that discount off MSRP, a lease might be pretty cheap on it. Then, you wouldn't need to worry about CPO, since you'd just turn it in at the end of the lease (or CPO it then)

 

Hopefully everyone understands that trunk money does NOT happen every year. The only year it actually happened was late 2009. Last year, the incentives were VERY small (and not distributed evenly, there was a chunk of money distributed regionally to allow dealers to move some older cars). I've seen $25k off MSRP but that was for a car that had been on the ground 18+ months. Don't expect the manufacturer to give the car away. I bet that if this same car is here during January or March, the dealership is going to be willing to go a lot deeper, but right now, there is little incentive to take as big a hit as some people here seem to imply they should.

 

I want to clarify something about my offer.

I have no idea what the dealer had in the car or what he is willing to sell it for. I was offering what I felt I could spend on that car. I wasn't trying to steal it or expecting the dealer to take a loss.

The dealer doc fees ($399.99) is something they charge for processing every car. Under their FAQs section they describe it like this:

Are any other fees added?

We charge $399.99 for processing the order and transferring the title. The government also charges a $3 fee to fund what is known as the lemon law.


I actually had the dealer call me back and I thought we might meet in the middle somewhere but in the end I decided to hold tight until I find what I think I will ultimately be happy with.


The search continues...

 

Sounds like someone suggested there are actually 2 white cars, so maybe one has only 39 miles and the guy is not BSing you.
Edmunds shows about $9k in the base sticker of a 2012 S. They offered at $16k off sticker, so they must be real close to invoice. I've had CPO offered to me for $2500, so there is a little room there. But since they are blowing it out close to cost, naturally they have little interest to lose money by adding other things at a loss that can't be compensated by profit on the car. Sounds real close to the best deal you can get, but that's why I suggested this car was going to be a tough one from the get go. Invoice on a one year old car barely gets you covered for the one year's depreciation, that's why I never consider leftovers real bargains.

 

Sounds great .. but according to the original poster he already has two issues :
1) Salesman says the car has 38 miles .
2) They are far apart in price .

 

82,500 plus the CPO thrown in to an out of state buyer places them below cost . They don't even get to retain you in service and CPO the car if you trade it in (which a local buyer might opt to do).

On the other hand .. holding a 2011 punched car already places them below cost but no dealership will give away a car with decent options in a standard color .

Inventory shows two white cars .

"Money in your pocket and the car still on the lot" -- Is never a bad choice ..
Especially on a nearly 90K car with some doubts and inconsistencies ( and 740 miles) .

Good luck in the search .

 

Good point, I didn't consider that.

 

Never settle, do you know how many people are trying to get out of their 2010's-2011's wanting to buy the new 991's that are coming out, tons, they are just waiting to actually see the car, and that means tons of 997's will be up for sale. GL with whatever you decide, it is still not a bad deal, hey you never know the dealer may give u a call one morning and agree to a lot of your demands....

 

For about $90K I would wait for a few reasons.

You only have a couple of months left this season to drive the car in the Midwest unless it will be a daily driver.

Prices will drop when 997 owners sell to buy the 991.

The new 991 will be out in Feb. I would wait to see if you like the 991.

 

This is not really true. Porsche has given dealers cash rebates to help them unload leftover 2011s. I bought mine for considerably under invoice..

 

Good advice. It will not be a daily driver but I was hoping to find a good deal on a "new" 2011 before they were all gone from the dealer lots. If I can't find the right car within the next month or so, I have no problem waiting until the spring to see what turns up on dealer lots or what people clean out of their garages.