About to buy tires, should I go Bridestone or Michelin
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About to buy tires, should I go Bridestone or Michelin
Like the title says, I am about to buy a new set of tires... Getting them from Costco and a set of 19" Bridgestone Potenza RE050A'S out the door are around $1,400 and the Michelin PS2's are about $1,800... are the Michelins worth the extra $400 bucks? Which set is quieter?
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I've got a new set of PS2's, I like them very much. Came from P Zero Rosso. Can't really tell if the difference is because the P Zeros where just worn or if the PS2's are that much better. I can't comment on the Potenza RE050A's. But on my old MB E55 AMG I had Michelin PS and also Potenza Pole Position S2. I preferred the Michelins.
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Michelin Pilot Super Sport's - newer model than PS2's, slightly better wear, grips like glue on the street, and much cheaper than both Bridgestone and PS2's.
The only drawback is the missing N2 (Porsche) rating
The only drawback is the missing N2 (Porsche) rating
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Or you could try your Porsche dealer.. Mine will match Tirerack prices and I don't have to deal with shipping.
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I've used RE050A tires for about 4 or 5 years now and found them to be excellent. I just removed my last set and installed a near-new set of PS2's I bought from another member. So far I haven't felt a difference in handling other than the improvement from the older and more worn Bridgestones.
I got great wear on the RE050A's. The first set of rears lasted 15k, and the second set had 12k on them when I removed them last week with probably another 3k of wear left on them The fronts were put on when I purchased my car in February 2010, and had 27k on them when removed last week, with likely at least another 3-5k life left in them (about 1/8" of tread). This is despite my car being lowered with more aggressive negative camber, and a few autocross sessions where there was lots of sliding around corners. I would have stayed with Bridgestones but decided to give the PS2's a try given the good deal I got on them. Have seen many good reports on the Michelin super sports and may try them next time. I personally wouldn't pay the premium for new PS2's over RE050A's based on my experience with the Bridgestones.
I wouldn't use the Porsche dealer, as they may match the tire price but will likely charge twice as much to mount them. I had mine mounted locally for a total of $80 vs $200 quoted by the dealer.
I got great wear on the RE050A's. The first set of rears lasted 15k, and the second set had 12k on them when I removed them last week with probably another 3k of wear left on them The fronts were put on when I purchased my car in February 2010, and had 27k on them when removed last week, with likely at least another 3-5k life left in them (about 1/8" of tread). This is despite my car being lowered with more aggressive negative camber, and a few autocross sessions where there was lots of sliding around corners. I would have stayed with Bridgestones but decided to give the PS2's a try given the good deal I got on them. Have seen many good reports on the Michelin super sports and may try them next time. I personally wouldn't pay the premium for new PS2's over RE050A's based on my experience with the Bridgestones.
I wouldn't use the Porsche dealer, as they may match the tire price but will likely charge twice as much to mount them. I had mine mounted locally for a total of $80 vs $200 quoted by the dealer.
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Like the title says, I am about to buy a new set of tires... Getting them from Costco and a set of 19" Bridgestone Potenza RE050A'S out the door are around $1,400 and the Michelin PS2's are about $1,800... are the Michelins worth the extra $400 bucks? Which set is quieter?
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You'll find that most that have switched to the Michelin Pilot Super Sports don't care or will dismiss the N rating. Almost all posts I've seen by MPSS owners show them to be quite happy with the tires, even without the N rating.
OTOH, Porsche dealers are not allowed to CPO a car unless it has N spec tires. Also, Tire Rack seems to support the N rating:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=26
It is recommended that only matching tires be used on Porsche vehicles. Since many Porsche vehicles are fitted with differently sized tires on their front and rear axles, this means matching the tire make, tire type and N-specification. If a vehicle was originally delivered with N-specification tires that have been discontinued and are no longer available, it is recommended to change all four tires to a higher numeric N-specification design appropriate for that vehicle. Mixed tire types are not permissible.
It is also important to know that while Porsche N-specification tires have been fine tuned to meet the specific performance needs of Porsche vehicles, the tire manufacturers may also build other tires featuring the same name, size and speed rating as the N-specification tires for non-Porsche applications. These tires may not be branded with the Porsche N-specification because they do not share the same internal construction and/or tread compound ingredients as the N-specification tires. Using tires that are not N-specific is not recommended and mixing them with other N-specification tires is not permissible.
It is also important to know that while Porsche N-specification tires have been fine tuned to meet the specific performance needs of Porsche vehicles, the tire manufacturers may also build other tires featuring the same name, size and speed rating as the N-specification tires for non-Porsche applications. These tires may not be branded with the Porsche N-specification because they do not share the same internal construction and/or tread compound ingredients as the N-specification tires. Using tires that are not N-specific is not recommended and mixing them with other N-specification tires is not permissible.
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For my previous 996 C2, i found Costco to be much less expensive for Michelin PS2 than tire rack- next time i went to purchase from Costco they were much more expensive than tire rack- even considering shipping/mounting cost.
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Costco offers the Michelin Pilot Super Sports in 235/30/19, but I don't see them for the rear size (305/30/19)... hmmm gotta call them.
Is there any advantage to filling your tires in Nitrogen? Or is all of that just hype?
Is there any advantage to filling your tires in Nitrogen? Or is all of that just hype?
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I've used the RE050As on my Boxster S and now on my 997 Cab. The wear levels and handling are great and the noise levels are more than reasonable. On the other hand, I just used up a set of Pilot Super Sports on my wife's G35 and they struggled to get to the 14,000 mile mark on mostly freeway driving. They were decent tires, but no improvement over the RE050s that they replaced and I put another set of RE050s on her car as replacements because the PSS wear levels are less than acceptable.
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I've used the RE050As on my Boxster S and now on my 997 Cab. The wear levels and handling are great and the noise levels are more than reasonable. On the other hand, I just used up a set of Pilot Super Sports on my wife's G35 and they struggled to get to the 14,000 mile mark on mostly freeway driving. They were decent tires, but no improvement over the RE050s that they replaced and I put another set of RE050s on her car as replacements because the PSS wear levels are less than acceptable.