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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 06:42 PM
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Yes. I have the same. 7/15 work and look great.
 
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ok, thanks. will order spacers tonight!!!
 
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Yes. I have the same. 7/15 work and look great.
Would you post a photo with your fitment?

I'm trying to figure out if they made the Carrera Sport wheels with different offsets for NB & WB cars- anybody know for sure?

Reason I ask is, the spacing looks pretty even from front to rear on my car- like if a 7mm would push the wheels out perfect in the front, it looks like a 7 in the back would look just as good- I worry that a 15 would push the tires right out past the fenders.

I tried measuring, but can't seem to get the taped coin to hang straight from the fender to save my life.
 
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Originally Posted by CM_699
Would you post a photo with your fitment?

I'm trying to figure out if they made the Carrera Sport wheels with different offsets for NB & WB cars- anybody know for sure?

Reason I ask is, the spacing looks pretty even from front to rear on my car- like if a 7mm would push the wheels out perfect in the front, it looks like a 7 in the back would look just as good- I worry that a 15 would push the tires right out past the fenders.

I tried measuring, but can't seem to get the taped coin to hang straight from the fender to save my life.
Yes they did make WB and NB offsets. The offset, listed in mm (along w/ wheel width, in inches) is stamped on rim adjacent to valve stem. Looking at your pix above you definitely have NB wheels w/ 57 offset front, 67 offset rear. WB are 57F/51R and would bring the wheel out ~ 5/8" compared to yours (67mm - 51mm = 16mm, 16mm / 25.4mm = .63" = 5/8" ) filling the rear wells perfectly... but a 15mm spacer would do [almost] the exact same.

That said, if you even have the slightest thought about getting aftermarket wheels... save the $ on spacers / longer bolts now and just get wheels w/ the correct offset down the road.

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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 10:47 AM
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Here is what 51 offset (w/ 11") in NB looks like. Fronts are 56 but 8.5" (so equivalent of 7mm)
 
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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 12:18 PM
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Thanks for posting the picture - that definitely helps, and is definitely the look i'm going for. Also makes me want to maybe pull the tail off of my car- the factory wing looks classic, and really exposes the hips.

Thanks also for the info on offset numbers stamped on the wheels. (rep added)- I just refinished my wheels, and looks like they went a little heavy with the finish & powder coat, so the numbers are more like bubbles now, but I can make out that the fronts are as you said - 57/8 up front, and 67/11 out back.

I've been wrestling with understanding offsets so thank's for your help. I believe I understand it correctly now. The lower offset (51) puts the rear wheels right out to the edges of the fender. The higher offset (67) tucks the wheel in by another 16mm. I think I've had that backwards in my mind for at least 5 years. I FINALLY understand it. So thank you.

I do want to go with different wheels someday, but I think they'll have to be on the next car. I really like the look of the turbo wheels on the Cab, but I've just spent a pretty penny refinishing these ones, so they're here to stay.

So, in the end what everyone has been saying all along: "7/15 on a NB C2S" is pretty much the way to go for the flush look.

I'm in.

HellaBuggin - did you sell those yours or what? PM me if you've still got them.

Thanks!
 
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I got my RSS 7/15mm spacers installed today. It's true. They're the perfect combo for my car.

I didn't take the best "before & after" pics, but here are some that I did take.

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I may try and take some better photos over the weekend if anyone is interested, but I'm definitely glad I got the spacers they really do put the wheels where they belong.

Hopefully these photos are helpful to any other users who may have been on the fence or unsure about if they would be too much.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SuncoastRyan
Our most popular size spacers are indeed 7mm up front:

http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...=997S_wheelacc

and 15mm in the rear:

http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...=997S_wheelacc

Both sets can come with either black or silver lug nuts which is nice.

Let me know if you have any other questions.
I take it the FRONT spacers are NOT hub centric as shown in the pics? The 7mm pic looks a 15mm hub centric spacer?

The problem I had was the 7mm flat disk spacer (WITHOUT the hub centric ring) was impossible to get centered and thus created a lot of vibration. There is just not enough of the hub sticking out past the 7mm spacer to come anywhere to close to holding and centering the wheel.

You guys that just put these on...you been on the highway yet? Just wondering. I never could get them even remotely close to acceptable as far as vibration.

As far as the LOOK, I thought the fronts were great, maybe even could have been a little more spacer. The rears, on my stock Sport PASM car, 305 PS2's, did bulge out a little more...it was mostly the profile of the PS2's..that lip that bulges off the side stuck out pretty far. If I ever lower I may give it another shot, but I removed and returned my spacers due to vibration.
 
Old Oct 26, 2013 | 06:39 AM
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I had the same problem. It was really bad with the C2S lobster style wheels mostly at highway speeds. Take off the wheel center cap when installing the wheel onto the hub and you can see the slop between the hub centering ring, spacer and wheel. There is a gap with a spacer because of the centering ring on the hub has a taper to it.

There are three options to help center the wheel up front with a spacer.

1. Replace the OEM lug bolts with the swivel washer to a solid bolt without a washer. The OEM bolts do not help in centering the wheel. They just hold the wheel to the hub. It's the hub that centers the wheel.

2. Replace the lug bolts/swivel washer with fixed bolt stems attached to the hub and lug nuts. Same concept as #1 above.

3. The best solution - use a 7mm spacer with a hub centric centering ring. This is the route I went. Brey Krause and RUF make hub centric 7mm spacers. See this thread:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...c-spacers.html

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I had the same problem. It was really bad with the C2S lobster style wheels mostly at highway speeds. Take off the wheel center cap when installing the wheel onto the hub and you can see the slop between the hub centering ring, spacer and wheel. There is a gap with a spacer because of the centering ring on the hub has a taper to it.

There are three options to help center the wheel up front with a spacer.

1. Replace the OEM lug bolts with the swivel washer to a solid bolt without a washer. The OEM bolts do not help in centering the wheel. They just hold the wheel to the hub. It's the hub that centers the wheel.

2. Replace the lug bolts/swivel washer with fixed bolt stems attached to the hub and lug nuts. Same concept as #1 above.

3. The best solution - use a 7mm spacer with a hub centric centering ring. This is the route I went. Brey Krause and RUF make hub centric 7mm spacers. See this thread:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...c-spacers.html

Good luck!
GREAT info to know! And a great find! So did you use the BK rear spacers as well?? I'm just curious how snug the spacers fit to the HUB. Because even the rear spacers I had with the hub centric lip, fit great to the WHEEL, but there was probably .5-1mm of slop between the spacer and hub!! Taking off the center caps is was clearly evident that it would be impossible to get it perfect. And I'm sorry, a few mm is NOT worth having ANY vibration in a $100k car. I tried twice to eyeball the alignment, torquing them in a ridiculously tedious fashion. In the end it felt unsafe to run something like this that was NOT precision. I think the RUF spacers look like they could work too, with the stud setup. OR honestly I thought the front could have easily taken a 10mm spacer without issue. Still, just having them hub centric is not the answer...they still have to fit snug to the HUB and the wheel to get that same precision mount as the stock setup.
 

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Correction- I had hub centric H&R spacers in the rear with narrow body lobster wheels. There is a full centering ring built into the spacer. Up front are BK spacers with a split centering ring nearly identical to the RUF version.

Now I have wide body Carrera S II's on a narrow body car (see my avatar). The offsets in the rear WB wheels do not require spacers with a NB car. The only spacers I have are up front.
 

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Originally Posted by Romysc4s
It varies depending on the wheel offsets. I have 7 fronts/15 rears sitting on Carrera S II rims with the following offsets.

Fronts: 19 X 8s ET 57 (w/235/35s)
The 19 X 11s ET 51 (w305/30s)

Check it out.

am I missing something here? rears ET 51 plus 15mm spacers would give you a total rear offset of 36...? or... and this doesn't look like that, enlighten me please, I know I am missing something, I thought I had the ET thing figured out... tia, kk
 
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am I missing something here? rears ET 51 plus 15mm spacers would give you a total rear offset of 36...? or... and this doesn't look like that, enlighten me please, I know I am missing something, I thought I had the ET thing figured out... tia, kk
Yes. Romysc4s's car is a wide body C4S with WB wheels. He needs 7mm/15mm to get flush at all four corners. Narrow body C2S with NB wheels also need 7mm/15mm to get flush at all four corners. The final rear offsets are different because each car has a different width and rear axle (51-15=36mm for WB, 67-15=52mm for NB cars).

My car is a NB C2S with WB rears. I only need 7mm the spacers up front. WB wheels are flush in the rear on a NB car without spacers (WB 51mm which is 1mm different than NB wheels with 15mm spacers, 67-16=52mm).
 

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Originally Posted by semicycler
Yes. Romysc4s's car is a wide body C4S with WB wheels. He needs 7mm/15mm to get flush at all four corners. Narrow body C2S with NB wheels also need 7mm/15mm to get flush at all four corners. The final rear offsets are different because each car has a different width and rear axle (51-15=36mm for WB, 67-15=52mm for NB cars).

My car is a NB C2S with WB rears. I only need 7mm the spacers up front. WB wheels are flush in the rear on a NB car without spacers (WB 51mm which is 1mm different than NB wheels with 15mm spacers, 67-16=52mm).

that's what I thought, SO... isn't the pic of romysc4s that I am assuming (shame on me, I know) is his 2S with the wb 51ET rears AND the 15mm spacers way wrong looking...shouldn't that rear tire be sticking out to about the 1st tread line?
 


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