Suggestions for 19" Snow Tires?
#16
I don't remember.... I am getting old! For winter tires, I usually run 1-2 pounds more in fronts and rears over spec. I do this for a few reasons:
1 - Philly winters can have big tempurature swings and I don't want the cold dips to result in under inflation and TPMS warnings going off. I don't like adding pressure in freezing weather... no fun.
2 - Winter tires tend to have mushier handling and adding a bit more pressure seems to firm them up just a bit.
Opinions on my tactics?
Peace
Bruce in Philly
1 - Philly winters can have big tempurature swings and I don't want the cold dips to result in under inflation and TPMS warnings going off. I don't like adding pressure in freezing weather... no fun.
2 - Winter tires tend to have mushier handling and adding a bit more pressure seems to firm them up just a bit.
Opinions on my tactics?
Peace
Bruce in Philly
#17
I don't remember.... I am getting old! For winter tires, I usually run 1-2 pounds more in fronts and rears over spec. I do this for a few reasons:
1 - Philly winters can have big tempurature swings and I don't want the cold dips to result in under inflation and TPMS warnings going off. I don't like adding pressure in freezing weather... no fun.
2 - Winter tires tend to have mushier handling and adding a bit more pressure seems to firm them up just a bit.
Opinions on my tactics?
Peace
Bruce in Philly
1 - Philly winters can have big tempurature swings and I don't want the cold dips to result in under inflation and TPMS warnings going off. I don't like adding pressure in freezing weather... no fun.
2 - Winter tires tend to have mushier handling and adding a bit more pressure seems to firm them up just a bit.
Opinions on my tactics?
Peace
Bruce in Philly
#18
Interesting comment..... so I dug into my manual and found some interesting stuff I thought I would share. 2009 C2S
Pressure increase as the result of
temperature increase
In accordance with physical principles, the air
pressure changes as the temperature changes.
The tire pressure increases or decreases by
around 1.5 psi (0.1 bar) for every 18 °F (10 °C)
change in temperature.
The Tire Pressure Monitoring takes this relationship
between tire pressure and temperature into
account.
I wish my wife's Lexus took this into account as she freaks out when the temp drops and her dash lights up.
I could find no chart in my manual although, there was a page showing pressures at 68f for loaded and unloaded weights.
Peace
Bruce in Philly
Pressure increase as the result of
temperature increase
In accordance with physical principles, the air
pressure changes as the temperature changes.
The tire pressure increases or decreases by
around 1.5 psi (0.1 bar) for every 18 °F (10 °C)
change in temperature.
The Tire Pressure Monitoring takes this relationship
between tire pressure and temperature into
account.
I wish my wife's Lexus took this into account as she freaks out when the temp drops and her dash lights up.
I could find no chart in my manual although, there was a page showing pressures at 68f for loaded and unloaded weights.
Peace
Bruce in Philly
#19
I'll have to check again about the chart, maybe it is for turbo owners only
Good stuff about the temps though, right? I just hate that everyone does the pressure to the door tags when they are incorrect. Also check in your PCM display. If you go to tires, then info, it will display the appropriate pressures.
Good stuff about the temps though, right? I just hate that everyone does the pressure to the door tags when they are incorrect. Also check in your PCM display. If you go to tires, then info, it will display the appropriate pressures.
#20
Had the Continental T810S N rated, now switched to non-N rated Dunlop Winter Sport 3D, all on original 19" turbo wheels on a 2007 997TT.
Very happy with them going into the 3rd season, very low mileage though.
Very happy with them going into the 3rd season, very low mileage though.
#21
I'll have to check again about the chart, maybe it is for turbo owners only Good stuff about the temps though, right? I just hate that everyone does the pressure to the door tags when they are incorrect. Also check in your PCM display. If you go to tires, then info, it will display the appropriate pressures.
#22
I've just picked up a set of 19" 997 Turbo rims for my new set of snow tires, so I'm now looking for good tire suggestions to slap on my 2010 C4S Cab (my DD in Chicago). I had a set of 18" Bridgestone Blizzaks on my '04 645, but I'm told that they don't come in a 19" size. I've been suggested to look at the Pirelli Sottozeros and the Dunlop winter tires.
Any other suggestions for a good set of tires to climb around the Chicago winter?
Any other suggestions for a good set of tires to climb around the Chicago winter?
#23
I just drove in that NJ snow this morning.... Michelin Alpins are great. Drove through an inch not plowed or salted... fresh.. I gunned it, when down a steep grade, pushed through cornners and these are very good tires. Still too early to tell, but right now, I am satisfied.
#24
Tom
#25
makes good sense to me. alot of it is just personal preference imo provided you arent going 10-15 psi under the car recommended or over the limited printed on the tires themselves.
i normally run 40/44 on the 911. on my jap cars i run 38 psi... which according to the books is about 5 psi over spec.
i normally run 40/44 on the 911. on my jap cars i run 38 psi... which according to the books is about 5 psi over spec.
I don't remember.... I am getting old! For winter tires, I usually run 1-2 pounds more in fronts and rears over spec. I do this for a few reasons:
1 - Philly winters can have big tempurature swings and I don't want the cold dips to result in under inflation and TPMS warnings going off. I don't like adding pressure in freezing weather... no fun.
2 - Winter tires tend to have mushier handling and adding a bit more pressure seems to firm them up just a bit.
Opinions on my tactics?
Peace
Bruce in Philly
1 - Philly winters can have big tempurature swings and I don't want the cold dips to result in under inflation and TPMS warnings going off. I don't like adding pressure in freezing weather... no fun.
2 - Winter tires tend to have mushier handling and adding a bit more pressure seems to firm them up just a bit.
Opinions on my tactics?
Peace
Bruce in Philly
Last edited by myw; 12-10-2013 at 08:25 PM.
#26
This is hugely helpful feedback, thanks to everyone who chimed in.I
Just to close the loop on my question that I posed in the original post, I ended up going with the Pirelli Sottozero Series II's... But I really struggled with the choice between the Dunlops and the Pirellis. With the Pirellis, t seems that people either LOVE them or HATE them - but I really didn't hear any middle-of-road feedback! In the end, it came down to a few folks who seemed very happy using these Sottozeros in similar climates as here In Chicago. I guess I"ll see if I made the right choice when I get these mounted on my 19" Turbo rims next week....
Thanks again to all who threw out their comments on this, and I'll post my feedback on these tires after a month or two of driving on these Pirellis in the depth of our Chicago winter (which hit this week and have made my Michelin PSS's completely useless!).
Just to close the loop on my question that I posed in the original post, I ended up going with the Pirelli Sottozero Series II's... But I really struggled with the choice between the Dunlops and the Pirellis. With the Pirellis, t seems that people either LOVE them or HATE them - but I really didn't hear any middle-of-road feedback! In the end, it came down to a few folks who seemed very happy using these Sottozeros in similar climates as here In Chicago. I guess I"ll see if I made the right choice when I get these mounted on my 19" Turbo rims next week....
Thanks again to all who threw out their comments on this, and I'll post my feedback on these tires after a month or two of driving on these Pirellis in the depth of our Chicago winter (which hit this week and have made my Michelin PSS's completely useless!).
#29
Sorry I missed this thread until now. For the 997 the best question to ask yourself before buying is how much snow you plan to see vs. performance in dry conditions. The Dunlop is a better tire in deep snow, but most go the Pirelli route to maintain the best dry performance that you can get in cold dry conditions. If you plan on getting into mountainous conditions I would recommend the Dunlop. Neither will let you down
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