please comment on this early build 997
#16
[QUOTE=no1joey;4125691]From my research if an IMS has lasted to 70k mileage and hasn't gone it's not one that is prone to failure - IF the service history is clean and oil changed regularly."
Anyway the IMS in mine is the 3rd generation (rated to 3650 lbs, as opposed to the 2nd generation - 3060 lbs & the first generation - 2200 lbs) as I have a 2005 build but it's a MY06 model. Not serviceable and if I wanted to install an upgraded IMS I would need to have the engine and transmission removed from the car & engine stripped $$$$$ - prob 2-3 days of labour about $4000 exc parts. No point might as well wait for it to fail if it will."
Great, but this post isn't about your car Joey. As I recall OP was looking at 2004 build car. Best advise there is to avoid it while shopping around, esp at a horrendously high price such as this one. Second best advise is to replace bearing for long term use if you own or will own an early build. And statistically any of these bearings are more prone to fail with increasing mileage, not sure who told you otherwise. All this information is readily available with a search. Just say'n: better to give no advise than wrong information. Peeps depend on the input from this and similar forums. Thanks and enjoy your car,
Gerry
Anyway the IMS in mine is the 3rd generation (rated to 3650 lbs, as opposed to the 2nd generation - 3060 lbs & the first generation - 2200 lbs) as I have a 2005 build but it's a MY06 model. Not serviceable and if I wanted to install an upgraded IMS I would need to have the engine and transmission removed from the car & engine stripped $$$$$ - prob 2-3 days of labour about $4000 exc parts. No point might as well wait for it to fail if it will."
Great, but this post isn't about your car Joey. As I recall OP was looking at 2004 build car. Best advise there is to avoid it while shopping around, esp at a horrendously high price such as this one. Second best advise is to replace bearing for long term use if you own or will own an early build. And statistically any of these bearings are more prone to fail with increasing mileage, not sure who told you otherwise. All this information is readily available with a search. Just say'n: better to give no advise than wrong information. Peeps depend on the input from this and similar forums. Thanks and enjoy your car,
Gerry
Last edited by Gpjli; 06-01-2014 at 09:15 AM.
#17
When I was searching for my car a couple years ago, I was struck by how many 997s had weak batteries and did not start well. This was true across most of the dealers I went to.
I suspect it comes from cars not being driven regularly, then being driven only in short test-drive spurts, never giving the batteries sufficient charge. Meanwhile, all the background electrical activities were draining out the batteries.
This phenomenon did not seem to be a problem with privately-owned cars.
I suspect it comes from cars not being driven regularly, then being driven only in short test-drive spurts, never giving the batteries sufficient charge. Meanwhile, all the background electrical activities were draining out the batteries.
This phenomenon did not seem to be a problem with privately-owned cars.
#18
Great, but this post isn't about your car Joey. As I recall OP was looking at 2004 build car. Best advise there is to avoid it while shopping around, esp at a horrendously high price such as this one. Second best advise is to replace bearing for long term use if you own or will own an early build. And statistically any of these bearings are more prone to fail with increasing mileage, not sure who told you otherwise. All this information is readily available with a search. Just say'n: better to give no advise than wrong information. Peeps depend on the input from this and similar forums. Thanks and enjoy your car,
Gerry
Gerry
OOPS LOOKS LIKE YOU FORGOT TO INCLUDE THE REST OF MY POST!! (MISTAKE??)
'Do an oil change on the car and look at the oil filter, if no metallic flakes then you are all good.
Regular oil changes are important, every 5k is best. I also read that it helps to keep revs above 2500, don't baby the engine low revs are bad for the IMS.'
#19
3 owners is in no way a warning sign, and IMS isn't as serious as you think- its even better that its a 2005 this way he can easily swap for the LN when he does the clutch. 06, 07" more complicated to change. As for price, 911s are going for super high prices rite now, i couldn't find anything under $40k that had less than 35,000 miles
#20
When my CPO expired I asked the dealer about what to do to help making sure car will run fine and IMS problem free. Answer from the technical advisor was:
- drive the car. Garage queen are here every year for a battery change. I do 10 000km per year and he said it's perfect
- rev the car. Every time you take the car, rev it at least once over 4000rpm, 5000-6000 is even better. He said to wait until old temp start to rise, but I will wait until it reaches 200 to go over 3000rpm.
Surprisingly, he said they didn't replace any 997.1 engine for a very longtime. He pointed out 1 991 and 1 997.2 waiting for an engine replacement. (+ 3 GT3 in the basementwaiting for their engine)
I personally bought a fidelity warranty for my 2006 c2s, stick, 43 000Mls, powertrain warranty 3 years/36000mls for $2500. And I sleep like a baby :-)
- drive the car. Garage queen are here every year for a battery change. I do 10 000km per year and he said it's perfect
- rev the car. Every time you take the car, rev it at least once over 4000rpm, 5000-6000 is even better. He said to wait until old temp start to rise, but I will wait until it reaches 200 to go over 3000rpm.
Surprisingly, he said they didn't replace any 997.1 engine for a very longtime. He pointed out 1 991 and 1 997.2 waiting for an engine replacement. (+ 3 GT3 in the basementwaiting for their engine)
I personally bought a fidelity warranty for my 2006 c2s, stick, 43 000Mls, powertrain warranty 3 years/36000mls for $2500. And I sleep like a baby :-)
#22
[QUOTE=Tarek307;4126136]3 owners is in no way a warning sign, and IMS isn't as serious as you think- its even better that its a 2005 this way he can easily swap for the LN when he does the clutch. 06, 07" more complicated to change. As for price, 911s are going for super high prices rite now, i couldn't find anything under $40k that had less than 35,000 miles[/QUOTE
Ok. OP has already moved on so this seems unnecessary. If there was a shortage of cars out there I might agree but no service history and serial owners in just not a Good Thing when you are shopping around. Bearing replacement costs $$ you just don't need to spend on 06+ (replacing those bearings is not really doable). I'm betting he will do a lot better and it seems he agreed. Hope you found a good one.
Ok. OP has already moved on so this seems unnecessary. If there was a shortage of cars out there I might agree but no service history and serial owners in just not a Good Thing when you are shopping around. Bearing replacement costs $$ you just don't need to spend on 06+ (replacing those bearings is not really doable). I'm betting he will do a lot better and it seems he agreed. Hope you found a good one.
#23
That was my thought but.........? Hope all there guys are around when I am looking to sell mine
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