awesome writeup !


love the new car, very subtle in color .

Silver is definatly the most low key color you can have

 

That post made me laugh...it's like saying to someone:

"you like chocolate better than vanilla? Seriously?? well try pistachio it's even better"

but I'm not suprised since your sig says you own a '14 cayman S

 

That's stating the obvious. The 997.2 S is quicker than 997.1 S, no matter what gearbox. Just like the 991 S is quicker than the 997.2 S. Porsche ensures it.

 

had a 997.1S 6spd and now have a .2S PDK. some quick thoughts: The interior is very similar. I now have sports seats and I like them better. The electronics are a world better with a much improved Navi and BT/mp3/usb etc. The exterior changes are subtle but the .2 looks much more modern with the LED lights etc. The engine is completely different. The .1 sounds MUCH better, the .2 revs MUCH quicker. the PDK is simply marvelous. No other words to describe it.

 

Pointless correlation that actually makes no sense. Why be so biased to the 911 as if it's the only Porsche? I'm a Porsche enthusiast and even more so a driving enthusiast, not just a 911 enthusiast. After back to back 997s, I wanted something different and better balanced (and grew old of my 997's lethargic PDK). What did it for me is driving my friend's 2010 base Boxster during a local PCA event, which could carry more corner speed than my 997.2 S. Yes, that's a box stock base Boxster with around 250 hp. That was my wake up call to get out of my 997. I reluctantly drove my now Cayman S at the dealer and the PDK was so good and the car so perfectly balanced that I thought I'd give a mid engine Porsche a go. Not regretting it, although knowing this community, I knew comments like yours would be plentiful. Doesn't mean my years and tens of thousands of miles in 997s just suddenly disappears or becomes irrelevant.

 

Concur except for the PDK reference. Good first effort perhaps (PDK), but lethargic compared to current 981/991 offerings. As for sound (assuming no PSE in either), do you think the DFI engine itself makes a different sound, or is it purely the exhaust making the difference? My 997.1 S had PSE and my 997.2 S PDK didn't, so of course it was far more muted. I hated the sound of my .2, so I replaced most of it with Cargraphic components. Even then it didn't sound as good as my .1 with PSE. That was disappointing.

 

very nice write up!!!!

 

My wife won't let me modify the exhaust on the 997.2. She says don't act like a kid...

Gonna have to get her a Boxter. Then I doubt she will complain about a little more music...

 

AWE+Gundo makes a 997.2 come alive

 

Looking for enthusiasts, anyone know an enthusiast?

 

I have driven the 997.2 for over two weeks now. The mild let down over missing some of the 997.1 driving traits are now easing. I am finding myself liking the 997.2 more and more. The improved interior over the previous gen is really nice. A familiar space that has been mildly changed but with excellent effect. The daily drivability is so much better, but this maybe due to having PASM. The newer engine is also more powerful and the delivery so smooth. The 997.1 sounded like some wild animal yelling while the newer goes through the revs with effortless classical music. One big plus is that I no longer have this urge to push the car all the time and am content driving the speed limit. Maybe I am getting too old??? The exhaust needs to modified though. My wife will kill me but I am probably gonna do a third muffler delete with an x pipe and leave everything else stock. Needs a bit more engine audio...

 

nice write up on both cars. i wonder what you would have thought comparing an older 997.1s vs a base 997.2

is the 997.2 that much difference ? or is it because its an s compared to a base model?

i have a 997.1 w / bose. and i find the stereo merely average. no bluetooth , horrible interface, no ipod really stinks . drove 997.2 s , which was cheaper than my turbo. and even without the extra creature comforts , the 997.1 wins , hands down.

i suspect it was more because it was a model up , rather than a 997.1 vs 997.2 thing.

 

Could you elaborate a little more? I've seen where people think the 997.1 is a more raw and rewarding experience than the 997.2 (especially exhaust-wise). curious as to your take.

I've driven both but not in succession so I haven't noticed enough of a difference.

 

The biggest difference in the S vs base was the PASM in terms of ride quality. So much better with than without. I dončt think this matters too much between 997.1 vs .2.

The tracking and high speed stability was way better in the .2 than .1 as when driving over 200 km per hr, the .1 was a handful while the .2 was so stable.

I did not have Nav in the .1 but did on the .2 and it is ok. It gets confused once in a while and spits out wrong instructions but not bad and the touch screen is nice. I havenčt mated the phone through blutooth yet so can not comment on that.

But between the base or S version... I love the S. The improved ride is well worth the extra money and the extra power is a bonus. Only thing is if you will get the .2, you should really think of finding one with PSE. Especially if you previously owned a .1 gen...

 

The 997.1 was my first 911. It was base with sport chrono and MT. The suspension was really stiff. There were a lots of clunks and rattles when going over even mild road imperfections. The engine was loud even with stock exhaust. It was not comfortable to drive at normal speeds. So I tended to push the car a lot as when I did, all this mechanical noise combined with athletic type of performance... It was orgasmic. This car was raw and I felt that I was inside a rabid animal. What an experience. Life changing.

That is why after selling due to tickets, it was like going through an intense withdrawal and this feeling would not end. Until that is I got the 997.2. The anticipation was so high. I felt like a little kid.

When the moment came and I climbed in and started driving, in my mind, I was waiting for that raw feeling to come out of the car. But it never did. The newer model was S with PASM. The ride was really comfortable. The exhaust was muted. Such a quite cabin without rattles. I felt very strange... I finally got back into a 911 but what happened to all that crazy mad sensation...

The 997.2 is growing on me now and I am falling in love again. But for different reasons than the ones that the 997.1 gave to me...