Hi All, Ive been using this site since i purchased my car a year ago. I introduced myself then and added a few pics ( will do so again if you'd like ) Search has been my friend and i appeciate all the info.

My 2006 C2S is now 8yrs old and has 60,000 kms (37000 miles) and its time for a service. I've just moved to a new city and have found a few indy shops that i'm checking out.

I asked what recommended service i would require and the estimate is below. They say to replace the water pump as recommended by Porsche (true?) I know there may be issues with it but do i replace it just in case?

I do have an aftermarket warranty and i want to make sure that i don't void anything by not following porsche guidelines.

I'll also state that i'm not a very handy fella but i really think im getting killed with labor costs on this estimate.





Inspection
Oil Service Inspection
Service
Oil Service Porsche 05-08 997

Drain and refill engine oil, change engine oil filter and lubricate chassis grease fittings and friction points as required. Check and top
off fluid levels, additional charges may apply where fluids are required. Complete a complementary visual vehicle inspection.

Labor $100.00 GP
Filter, oil 1 Unit $24.73 GP
Drain Plug, magnetic 1 Unit $46.78 GP
Engine Oil 5W40 Leitchlauft LM 3869 9 Litre $135.45 GP
Sub $306.96

Air Filter Porsche 997
Repalce engine air filter.
Labor $74.50 GP
AIR FILTER 1 Unit $53.88 GP
Sub $128.38

Cabin Filter Porsche 997
Replace cabin filter for climate control system. Clean cabin filter assembly to remove dust, dirt, sand, bugs, and debris beore
installing new filter.

Labor $74.50 GP
CABIN FILTER 1 Unit $51.48 GP
Sub $125.98

Brake Fluid Flush Porsche
Remove wheels to perform annual brake fluid flush. Perform visual inspection of brake linings, brake hoses, and system lines.

Labor $238.40 GP
Brake fluid 2 Litre $46.22 GP
Sub $284.62

Water Pump & Thermostat Porsche 997 05-08
Remove air filter housing, belt, & both cats. Support engine and remove rear engine support; drain coolant; remove water pump &
thermostat. Install new thermostat & water pump. Install rear engine support as well as both cats. Install belt & air filter housing. Fill
and bleed cooling system.

Labor $759.90 GP
Water Pump 1 Unit $532.08 GP
Coolant 2 Unit $235.86 GP
WATER PUMP GSKT 1 Unit $18.38 GP
THERMOSTAT 1 Unit $128.68 GP
M25-40 HOSE CLAMP 2 Unit $10.02 GP
M40-60 HOSE CLAMP 2 Unit $11.26 GP
Hose 1 Unit $127.30 GP
Hose 1 Unit $48.40 GP
Water hose 1 Unit $85.48 GP
BELT 1 Unit $70.75 GP

Sub $2,028.11
Total Parts $1,626.75
Total Labor $1,247.30
Total Before Taxes & Miscellaneous Charges $2,874.05
(G) GST 5% $143.70
(P) PST 7% $201.18
Grand Total $3,218.93

 

I agree with all the items you listed, but man are those prices high (even for Canada). Can't you DIY any of this? Go over to Rennlist and check out their 997 DIY section. They have threads that will show you how to do an engine oil and filter change as well as your cabin air and engine air filters. This would save you quite a bit of money. I can do an engine oil and filter change for around $70 and that is using Mobil 1 5W-50 and a Mahle OX 128/D filter which I bought on Amazon. Paying over $250 for a cabin and engine air filter change is just insane.


I would suggest you replace your drive belt since it will be off for the water pump replacement. Consequently they shouldn't charge you any extra labor for the install. I think I paid just over $40 (US) for an OEM belt from Suncoast Porsche. Porsche recommends replacing the drive belt every 6 years or 60K miles, so you are due especially if you are running the original one.


Also, when was the last time your spark plugs were changed? Porsche recommends every 4 years or 60K miles, but there are many who say changing them every 4 years is too often. It's up to you. This is something I can DIY, so I am in it for only $55 for the cost of the plugs (Bosch FGR-5-KQE0). I would recommend you leave this up to your mechanic if you aren't good with a wrench (but do try the oil and filter changes as they are no brainers).


Regarding the water pump, many people recommend changing it preemptively due to premature failure of the plastic impeller inside. I think that is smart. You don't want your car to overheat and cause damage. The price for repairing/replacing one of these engines is obscene. My water pump failed at 17K miles so if you are still running the original one you are probably on borrowed time. The price they quoted you seems high. If memory serves me correctly, my replacement ran somewhere around $900, but that was some time ago.


Sean

 

my personal advice, if you are still under CPO, go at the Porsche dealer. I went twice (each year) and every time they found stuff to replace under CPO.

 

and I have a 2006 C2S too. so same major service for me


oil change and other stuff part of it (I paid)
they changed the spark plugs (I paid)
found each coil pack to be cracked (under CPO, $80 x 6)
tierod were loose (CPO, about $1000-$1200)
replace front tire (due to bad tie rod, I paid, $900)
alignment due to tie rod(CPO, about $150)
cabin noise due to a plastic (CPO, $50)
mechanic preferred black bolt for my turbo wheels, replaced under CPO as original were a little rusty (LOL)
free lunch (took the a full day to do everything)


so yeah, to me, dealer only when under CPO

 

The OP stated he had an aftermarket warranty. I'm curious if that type of warranty will fix the same items at no cost as your CPO warranty did.

Sean

 

Those prices are ridiculous!!!

 

I totally agree. Do your own oil and filters changes. You can leave the rest for the Indy, but I would shop around for better prices.

 

I agree with the ridiculous prices.... I've looked up some of the parts too and can't believe the mark up they're hitting me with.
I don't have CPO as was mentioned but i do have a warranty, wondering myself what I can get covered if they happen to find any issues. I will definitely let the shop ( probably not this one ) know that there is a warranty though.
Anyone else claimed anything that was found while getting routine maintenance on an aftermarket warranty?
Definitely going to shop around for another shop although I don't have a lot of choices. No dealer in town either and the closest one is 3 hours away.

 

Only thing that might be covered under warranty is the water pump and then only if it is defective. As for the prices... WOW !!!!!

 

Oil & filter on these cars is a peace of cake. Air filter also easy peasy.