Hello everyone,

I've been considering purchasing a 2006 C2S manual with about 56K miles on it. It's going for $37K at my local Porsche dealer. Is there anything I should be looking out for other than maintenance records? Would an aftermarket warranty be worth the cost?

The link is below for reference.

Thanks!

http://www.momentumporsche.com/used/Porsche/2006-Porsche-911-925adfd10a0a00e05e818bead843858f.htm

 

CARFAX checks out. It wouldn't hurt to pay for an AutoCheck report just to make sure an accident or something didn't slip through the CARFAX. Ask if they have technician's notes on the vehicle to see if it needs anything or will need anything. Look for abnormal tire/brake wear, abnormal interior wear, paint/body imperfections. Check the body panels to see if they all have original VIN tags on them (hood, doors, engine lid, etc.) See if they'll put it up on a lift so you can check the underside for leaks. Try everything electrical; I forgot to check this and later found that my passenger seat didn't move forward or back.

Personally I'd rather put $2k into an IMS bearing replacement and bank any money leftover for a rainy day than buy a warranty, but that's me.

Looks like a nice car overall; Bose, heated seats, Sport Chrono, supple leather appear to be the options. Not sure if it has navigation; they all have the buttons but not all are equipped. Those worn HVAC switches and stereo buttons can be repaired by sending them to stickynomore (stickynomore.com) for short money. Best of luck!

 

Thank you for the advice! I didn't realize the 06+ still had an IMS issue. Glad you told me about stickynomore. I didn't think those could be fixed.

 

Add Water pump, coil packs, plugs, Air Oil separator (AOS), And potentially at those miles, Brake rotors/pads into consideration for negotiations if the above have not been performed....The dealer might try and say...no, doesn't need it... you just note inside your head, that these cars are best served replacing parts before a failure...period!


The above list can come in at around $5k plus depending on installed unless youre handy.... they are all basic shade tree mechanic tasks and ~ 1.5 days to do yourself....(12 hours).


I think a 997.1 is a lot of car for the mid 30's for money.


Lots of em out there.... if I found one a few grand more with a lot of the above already done, id personally want that car instead.


Luck.

 

Thanks! Should I be worried about clutch life as well?

 

Wouldn't hurt to check, it should last more than 56K miles but who knows how it was driven. Addition to everything mentioned above, you can check tires, check battery. I would asked if Momentum Porsche can do the 60K mile service, change oil/filters, cabin and air filters, etc. That will save you a few hundred dollars.

 

I too have an 06 C2S. I also purchased a Fidelity Platinum Aftermarket Warranty along with the vehicle. I just clicked over the 40K mileage and just had the water pump replaced. Only cost me a $100 bucks.I would definitely get an aftermarket warranty for piece of mind. 2005 had a smaller IMS and could be replaced without engine tear down. 06 through 08 had a larger bearing but the engine has to be torn down!! :-( It will cost you far over $2K dollars to have the IMS replaced if it fails!

 

Hard to say on the clutch... A DME rev report can kind of give you an idea of
how the cars been loved or not loved. If after a test drive, and under normal driving (not beating the pi$$ out of it), you small a burning type odor, can indicate a slipping clutch.... and if youre as 1 with your car, youll be able to tell if clutch is slipping.


Warranties are personal preference.... if your a polo shirt type with limited knowledge of working on cars, or no interest, id buy one...if you have skills, and a sense of accomplishment in working on your own car.... don't bother.
waste of 4-5K. Most 05-06 cars have hopefully been figured out by now
avoiding a motor rebuild/replacement.


again...good luck. if trying to hit that under 40k mark...an 05/06 car is likely unless you don't mind miles in a 07/8 car. theres so many of these things available to buy....please take your time...do it once!

 

If you can afford the warranty go for it! Polo shirt give me a fricken break!LMAO!! I love hearing from the ones that don't know what they have gotten themselves into purchasing a Porsche when these problems arise.You don't have to smell an odor for the clutch either. A good sign is usually where the clutch pedal is releasing. If it's high that is usually a good sign the clutch is very worn or just put your foot into it in 2nd gear at 2K rpm, you will know if it's slipping by the tell tale rpms!

 

Sorry Kali... didn't mean to get under your skin. Ill stand by and wait for more editors trying to out do the prev posters.


OP/// good luck with the car!

 

Whoops! You're right. I was thinking 2007-08's were like this, forgot '06 was the same story. Guess I'm glad I got an '05. My tech was able to inspect the clutch while it was being done (he reported that it looked nearly new )

I'd either consider a warranty or get an estimate to replace the IMS bearing. I was not comfortable driving my car for the first month while I waited for my svc. appointment, knowing in my head that if that bearing went I'd be faced with a $20k+ bill to replace the engine. It's the reason I stayed away from a Cayman S when I was considering it alongside the Subaru BRZ and a few others. (If I knew then what I know now, I would've bought the Cayman and did the bearing service, but oh well. The BRZ was a fun car anyway.)

 

From what I was lead to believe the 06 cars has a mush lower incidence of IMS failures than the previous cars and or the Cayman


From what I was told it is a very rare occurrence to have a IMS issue on a 06 - 08 997 if anyone has any information to the contrary please let me know

 

Very rare occurrence on an 06-08.

 

I don't know it seems like a bit of paranoia to take apart the motor to prevent a problem with such a low rate of occurrence


I will hopefully hear from some experts on this subject


Mine has only 16 K miles and looks like new - it seems it would be a pity to have to pull out the motor


Thanks

 

Here's a good read on the IMS bearing issues: http://imsretrofit.com/ims-101/

Up to 10% calculated failures, 8% actual failures on the smaller single row bearing for MY2000-2005 on the M96 motor. This is the heart of the class action lawsuit and Porsche settlement. Fortunately for these years the bearing is easily serviceable.

Less than 1% failure with the larger single row bearing for MY2006-2008 on the M97 motor. Over on rennlist Jake Raby was saying almost all of the MY2006-2008 failures seen were on the track, rarely on a street car if at all, due to the higher continuous RPM's along with the larger bearing diameter and spin speed. Again, less than 1% failures here. Furthermore he does not recommend preventative IMS bearing work for 2006-2008 street car unless you are already in there doing a clutch. Basically drive the street car like it's meant to be driven and change the oil frequently, that's all.