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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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What gets me the most is when people with e46m3s think they can beat a 997s...that always suprises me...
But it's always fun showing them the light... LOL
 
Old Feb 15, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris from Cali
But it's always fun showing them the light... LOL

No kidding!

Keep on showin' those Bimmers they aint got nuthin' on ya!
 
Old Feb 15, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by sechsgang
No kidding!

Keep on showin' those Bimmers they aint got nuthin' on ya!
I used to get it all the time when I had my Evo. I tried to explain that a lighter, more powerful (320whp), and AWD Evo would dust off M3s, but they always need to see a practical application. LOL In the Carrera S, it's a joke.
 
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no kidding...I used to own an M3...but I never thought I could take anything like an Evo or CarreraS...However...I DID think I could take a 996 c2...that was about the extent of the BMW M3 Pcar beating power...
 
Old Feb 15, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by StrtSwpr996
Is your 997S stock, I would also want to do a comparo with a stock 996tt and a stock 997S.. My 997s has bypass pipes and GIAC.
my car has bypass pipes also and lighter wheels

we can do a few run, dont matter, ill run against anything, i dont mind losing drag races, its the car, not the driver. you do canyon runs?
 
Old Feb 15, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
Even a bumbling TT driver would spank a 997S. Way more torque. Way more power.
Way more weight and drivetrain loss
 
Old Feb 15, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by neil.schneider
OK,
Here is the link. Short race but you get the idea. Now if it was the coupe that Road and Track had during their test(0 to 60 in 3.9) and that was the only criteria than maybe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqJSy2iW7Ps

thats my vid, that 996 has 550+hp and 1 skinny ****er driving, i have 2 people (420lbs or so) in my car w/ about 300mi on the odo at the time
 
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Originally Posted by StrtSwpr996
I wonder how many more stories we have to here about people with 997's(usually S's) keeping up with 996tt's untill people start to beleive it... I for one beleive it becuase i was even with one with my 997s
It's funny, I started a thread a while back asking about how a stock C2S would do against a TT because I raced one that morning and did much better than expected.

We ran at least a half dozen runs from 10-20mph rolls to 110-120mph. Each time the Turbo could only pull about 1/2 - 3/4 of a car on me.

I was shocked and most reply's blasted me saying no way.

Well, I have run a few more stock TT's since with very similar results. I am as shocked as anyone else but it is in fact reality. That video posted a few threads back is WAY off.
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV58X1u9eUQ

If the 996 GT3 cant.........
 
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I have seen vids of the 996gt3 beating a Gallardo...



Wait...has anyone raced a 997C2s with a Gallardo???? That seems to be a good match-up!
 
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Originally Posted by gmoney
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV58X1u9eUQ

If the 996 GT3 cant.........
Having owned a 2005 996 GT3 I can honestly say that the driver of the GT3 in this video would probably be more comfortable in a Caddy with an automatic.

However while the GT3 was a screamer at higher RPMs the 997S feels much torquier (Is that a word?)
 
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Originally Posted by mricorp
Having owned a 2005 996 GT3 I can honestly say that the driver of the GT3 in this video would probably be more comfortable in a Caddy with an automatic.

However while the GT3 was a screamer at higher RPMs the 997S feels much torquier (Is that a word?)

Im sure the 997 is "torquier"...its got a 3.8 and doesnt need to rev as high...

But...its also conciderably heavier and the gearing is just different...ask Illm3 about the gearing...he is far more knowledgable about this then I.
 
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I have beat a modded 997S (ECU, Fabspeed headers, high flow cats, mufflers & V-flow) and a 04 Gallardo with my GT3 (Stock). Both cars from a dig and from a roll. The Gallardo is definately faster than the S.
 
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Originally Posted by neil.schneider
OK,
Here is the link. Short race but you get the idea. Now if it was the coupe that Road and Track had during their test(0 to 60 in 3.9) and that was the only criteria than maybe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqJSy2iW7Ps
You dont ever remember running with a silver grey M3 on rt 202...do you...?
 


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