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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Tire pressures during track event

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Doing my second track event at Thunderhill next week and was curious what are good psi values for front and rears.

During a few hours of spirited driving I am usually at 40psi rear and 34psi front.

But last time I was on the track the rears got up to 46 psi, way too high. It would also be nice to know how much I should deflate the tires before I start warming them up so I don't have to make a pit stop later when they are hot.

Thanks for any info!
 
Old Apr 1, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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I found 38/42 Hot to work well yesterday for PS2s. 50 degrees and mostly sunny, 1:04s at Lime Rock in Black run group. Optimal operating pressures for the PS2 from my old research was 42 PSI - so I worked from there and backed down 4 PSI for the fronts.
 
Old Apr 2, 2007 | 03:31 AM
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You could try filling them with nitrogen for your next track day; it doesn't tend to expand as much. I personally run at around 36-7front / 43-4back (hot).
 
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Guess what - that was WITH nitrogen, which my dealer put in no charge at delivery. What a farce it was for me - my left rear went up 11 PSI!

All sarcasm aside - thanks for suggesting Nitrogen, but I found there to be no difference in swing in PSI over normal air on street or track. I guess the real benefit is lack of water molecules which can degrade the tire and valve stem over time...
 
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Really! Guess the extra 10$ I paid was useless ..

Then the only real benefit would be to make sure you check the pressure with a accurate Tire Gauge .. the TPMS sensors don't always give you the best reading. I usually fill up my air; go for some laps then check the pressures again (and change them based on the track).
 
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Yah, I only use the TPMS to look for dramatic suggested change on the street - not really any time on the track to squint to see those tiny TPMS numbers while at 10/10ths.

I use my best guess at the start of a session and then adjust as soon as I come in. Track time is so precious I don't want to pit-in and lose 5 minutes (between slowing to pit, the pitting process (5 mph in the pits), checking / adjusting, then 5 mph to the pit-out, then waiting for a gap...
 
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I lap in 20 minute intervals (on/off) .. after the cool down I check the tires. If you think changing pressures are annoying .. try adjusting the camber while pitting!
 
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Ok thanks for the info! If they have nitrogen readily available at the track I might give it a shot.
 
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From my experience with and without Nitrogen, I'd avoid it. I joked with my dealer when he comped me when I picked up my car - "So, do you have any Nitrogen-in-a-can that I can bring to the track with me?" It's impossible to work with a product that's not readily available... And, as I found, it made no difference and even if it did, then I wouldn't be able to share pressure data with 99% of the rest of the world that doesn't run Nitrogen.
 
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For DE's nitrogen is not worth it because you will not run the same pressure for the track and for street everyday driving.
 
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