I just had my 997S lowered with H&R springs today. I only had a chance to drive it back from the shop (Protosport) to my house, but so far, I'm really digging them. I think the car looks more aggressive and driving home was like having it in sport mode before the springs were put in. I'm going away for a few days, but will post some pics when I get back.

 

So far good things, Im liking.

 

H&R for PASM all the way, great ride, great performance and great look:

 

Great Stance!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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i had to learn this one the hard way. in addition to the springs wearing your stock shocks out very quickly, you should take into consideration that the car will not handle as good when pushed. the lowering springs and stock shocks just don't match nicely. you have to remember that the lowering springs put some serious compression on the stock shocks and remove a good portion of their travel. i've already been there and done that. had i to do it over again, i would have saved the $1000 i wasted in parts and labor and just put the PSS9's in there first. i found the handling to be very squirrly when driving at a quick pace. especially when you got on some uneven road surfaces. however, if you're just doing it for appearances, you don't plan on keeping the car that long, and you don't drive it very hard; then the spring replacement may work for you. with as price as these cars are, why not put the proper product in there? the labor is the same at around $600. the parts are around $2K. the springs are around $400. so it's an extra $1600 to really improve the car's looks and handling. sounds like a bargain to me. i also heard that bilstein now has pss9's for pasm cars. not sure what the price is though.

 

Sorry to hear your experience.

What kind of springs did you use?

 

My sentiments do not echo yours. I have found that they only lose composure over awful roads but otherwise, the handling is still predictable and the loss of traction still remains perfectly gradual.

However, I do agree, now that the PSS9s are out for PASM, they are a better way to spend your money.

 

cargraphic.

 

your car is still fairly new. wait till you get a couple more miles under your belt

when we removed my stock shocks and aftermarket springs (around 15K total miles on the car), the shocks were so worn you could compress them by hand. so essentially, the springs were doing most of the work at that point. you can imagine what that did for the handling.

 

I lowered mine with "Cargraphic" PASM compatible springs - the Cargraphic springs are H&R springs.

I only have 2,500 miles on this my first 911 and don't have any experience with how a "nonlowered" ride should handle.

Considering the US versions are actually raised to meet US bumper height standards, lowering is just returning the design to the original.

I like my look - check out the powerpoint below if youw want....

 

Yes, the Cargraphic springs are built by H&R to Cargraphic's specs.

I totally agree that the US cars are too high from the factory and look much better with a 35mm or so drop.

However, the ROW (rest of world) cars have a slightly different suspension from what I understand. So even though you are cosmetically making it look like a ROW car (which is typically only a 10-12mm drop, lowering springs go much lower), you'll still run into over compression of the stock shocks. a new car with 2500 miles isn't really enough time to see the results of lowering springs.


Like said, with as expensive as these cars are and now that there is a pasm pss9 setup, why not? i'm by no means a track star, but my car handled 10x better when i ditched the stock spring/shock combo and went to the PSS9's. The GT3 sways were a nice upgrade too.

 

well, unfortunately the PASM PSS9's are in the 3500 clam catagory...much more pricey than a set of springs. since labor is about the same and the cost of springs is about 500...you are looking at $3000 difference. For me that will be well spent down the road, but not now.

 

My car has over 25,000 miles and over 10,000 daily driven miles with the springs.

 

again, you spent 80-90K on a performance sports car. why cheap out now and degrade the handling?