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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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My car with about 12k on it uses about a quart every 1500 miles and that is an improvement from where it was at 6K.

Interesting side note; the Porsche 250 race is out at Barber's this weekend and one race team was using the Dealerships facility.

I asked them how long their engines lasted? 3 races or 750 miles. I will ask them over the weekend how they break them in.
 
Old Jul 18, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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2007 997S 6 speed
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3800 miles+/-
mostly short trips but driven fairly aggressively in hot climate
1 quart since new

If my car was burning +/- a quart every 1000 miles I'd be a very unhappy camper...
 

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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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Why is my car NOT burning oil or at least very little? Very interesting. I've done 1 oil change at 7000 miles and before that I added a little over .25 quart and from 7000 to 9000 miles I am in the middle of the bar graph. 1 auto cross and 3 hard DE's plus highway and normal driving...not babying it nor running to red line at every stop light.
 
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Why is my car NOT burning oil or at least very little? Very interesting. I've done 1 oil change at 7000 miles and before that I added a little over .25 quart and from 7000 to 9000 miles I am in the middle of the bar graph. 1 auto cross and 3 hard DE's plus highway and normal driving...not babying it nor running to red line at every stop light.
If you're in the middle of the bar graph 2000 miles after your 7000 mile change then you are burning oil especially since you're now well past the B/I period... although the amount is relatively light especially compared to some others.
 

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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 07:13 AM
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If you're in the middle of the bar graph 2000 miles after your 7000 mile change then you are burning oil especially since you're now well past the B/I period... although the amount is relatively light especially compared to some others.
Exactly, but they way some of these guys are reporting how their cars burn oil you would think they have a 2 stroke engine in the car.
 
Old Jul 19, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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Good point 500, as I've been trying to keep oil level at top bar, rather than letting it fall. If it falls to half-way, my experience has been that it takes about .75 quarts to bring the guage back to full.
 
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2007 C2S
In service date: 8/6/06
Miles to date: ~9500
Oil added to date: .25-.5 qt (around 2500 miles)
Ran it to 7k RPM leaving the dealer @ purchase (after letting oil warm to 200)

I recently stuck it on the dyno and pulled a respectable 313 rwhp. Runs like a champ. I did the 1 year service and oil change Monday.
 
Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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3500 miles and added roughly half a quart at about 2800. I haven't tracked the car, but I rev it as much as I can after it's warmed up. I try to avoid short drives.
 
Old Jul 20, 2007 | 12:49 AM
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2006 997 S 13 months old and 13K miles:

Before first oil change at 8k miles I added 2/3 of a quart, most of it during the break in period.

After first oil change I haven't added a drop, and I'm 1 bar below top right now.

Don't add oil until your half or lower, and do it slowly and keep re-checking the oil level while you do it.

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how do you guys check your oil color if there is no dipstick? Sometimes i feel the need to look at the oil and smell it... haha
 
Old Jul 22, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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2007 C4S oil consumption

2007 C4S oil consumption:

First 650 miles, tightish motor, 2/3 qt oil consumed.

2200 miles : no oil consumed except initial 2/3 qt. Happy motor, revs freely.
 
Old Jul 23, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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2 quarts in 5000 miles

'07 C2S. Break in by the book, 4 track days since break-in, 5k miles in total. Only added 2 quarts.

Oil consumption bothers me much less than heavy smoke at startup last time I let the car sit for a week.

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Oil Usage Poll Update

For those looking for a bit more data, please have a look at Rennlist.com in the 997 forum and where we have over 100 responses to date, with some very interesting data.

Again, the forum is a community, not designated for the "sole purpose" of helping the pollster. It is unfortunate that my original post was discouraged as being selfish.

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Originally Posted by 1999Porsche911
Polls like this are often for the sole purpose to help the pollster to sleep better at night seeing that there are others who experience the same problem. The fact is, no matter how many Porsche's you find that burn a measurable amount of oil (non track) you have a problem.

The engine was not designed to burn oil and burning oil is ALWAYS bad for the engine as well as it robs the engine of power. In many cases, burning oil on a NA engine is due to using the incorrect oil and driving the vehicle like it is a show car, allowing your cylinders to coke up and rings not to seal. This creates tremendous crankcase pressure forcing oil into the intake, reducing the effective octane level of the fuel. Long term negative effects is carbon buildup in areas out of the airflow path, hotter engine temps, etc.

Rather than looking to see that your engine is like every other Porsche, it would be time better spent fixing the problem. I have found very few flat six NA engines that I couldn't stop all measurable oil loss without breaking into the engine.

Remember, synthetic oil is not amume from sludge and carbon buildup as the marketer's would like you to believe. Too thin an oil is more prone to this as it is effected more by ring leakage and crankcase pressure.
 
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Gundo
For those looking for a bit more data, please have a look at Rennlist.com in the 997 forum and where we have over 100 responses to date, with some very interesting data.

Again, the forum is a community, not designated for the "sole purpose" of helping the pollster. It is unfortunate that my original post was discouraged as being selfish.

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I see no reason for you to repost 1999 Porsche's response. By far the vast majority of members here and on other forums responded in good spirit to your post. The real question is: What have you learned from the responses, what is the status of your car, and what is Porsche doing to help you?
 
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Originally Posted by Gpjli
I am old enough to remember the Kawasaki 500 two strokes smoking (quite literally) the competition in the 70's. Were they tight? no. Did they burn oil? yesiree. Were they fast? youbetcha. As I remember they used exactly 9.5 gals of oil every 15,000miles. And thats all I got to say about dat.

OMGF you are talking about a two stroke 2 strokes use pre mix oil for lubrication. my 2007 997 with 3,000 miles and 1 oil change never added oil.
 


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