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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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No offense taken Flash. But when you quote $15K for a "similar" motor, don't forget the programmable EFI, don't forget the RD rad setup, serp setup, race blower cogged set up, 80 pound injectors, Aero fuel delivery, and on and on and on. It's a lot more in my $40K figure than a long block. Make sure you post up your build as it sounds awesome!

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I was including my $2000 FAST EFI setup, which along with Big Stuff, are the 2 top EFI systems available. Yep, 75 lb injectors, etc. I wouldn't include radiator and fuel delivery as those usually aren't included when you discuss motors. Cooling and fuel systems are separate. Ron Davis is the best radiator money can buy (I have a similar one which uses the same cores as Ron Davis but cost about $400 less) Aeromotive A1000 pump, etc etc. Anyway, don't want to steal your thunder here. You have a very kick *** Mustang. I would like a Fastback one day....

Good luck with the sale. And I will post more on mine soon.
 
Old Mar 17, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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Maybe inidcate "$40K" for what you see in the engine bay. IT's amazing how things begin to quickly add up "after" the long block is built.
I envy you guy's for finding these gems and retro-modding them. It was something I wanted to do but had to sell my 65' Notch-back in the 1980's. A few years back, I came close to trying to find it and so I could rebuild it to trans-am spec ala Terlingua (sp) but decided I always wanted a topless car. Still, to answer the original thread, a GT350 would be my answer but the Camaro's are also instant classics. I haven't seen one I wouldn't mind owning!
 
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my uncles motor (just motor) was 30k, not including headers etc, etc etc.
 
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my uncles motor (just motor) was 30k, not including headers etc, etc etc.
I'm curious to know where all the money went.. since it's carb'ed and no blower/turbo.
 
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Is that the track beast of a camaro? Can you post build details? Also, did you say he was building a another track car? As for engine cost, not sure I understand it. I have heard of a well known engine builder being hired by a Le Mans team and within 24 hours developing another approx. 75-100 h.p out of a V-8 that they felt was pretty well sorted and it still complied w/ the rule book. I understand spending outrageous sums for such but for a track beast that does not adhere to a rule book......well, just not sure I get it. Perhaps the engine is bullet proof and is there by unique in that respect. Interested in the details.
 
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This is out of the Popular Hot Rodding article since I don't know the specifics on the motor.

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Gross based the 358 cubic-inch small-block Chevy on an aluminum Dart block, loaded it full of Sonny Bryant billet crank, Manley H-beam rods, J&E forged pistons, a custom Crower solid roller cam with a Cloyes double roller timing chain and topped the nugget with ported Brodix 18-degree heads and a high-rise spread-port intake. "Huffaker out in Sonoma built the [1 3/4 to 1 7/8-inch step] headers," says Gary Michelson, "Nothing fits in it, so we had them built. A lot of the stuff on that car is like that. It's just a one-of-a-kind car."
Other engine goodies include 2.05/2.02-inch stainless valves actuated by a Crower rollerized valvetrain, a NASCAR-spec Holley 830-cfm carb, a custom four-gallon dry-sump oil system, MSD distributor, ignition and coil, Taylor 8mm wires, a Griffin radiator with oil cooler, 145-amp Power Master alternator, and Peterson water pump and pulleys."

His other track car is a 07 Z06, it's been gutted, one seat, roll cage. They got the car down to 2800-2900 pounds wet with him in it. It's actually getting a c6R style body kit at the moment that might bring the weight down since it will be all carbon fiber. I can't wait to see this car, it sucks living in Boston and he's in California. I do have a picture of his latest toy that just got finished




 
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Which One? The original Question...

Originally Posted by Christian
What do you guys like better and why, post pics if you own one

Christian
I like the small and light cars, personally so the Mustang is my immediate and perhaps obvious choice. I think that the lines on the Ford are far more "classic" and have a richer overall look. I like the early Chevy Camaros but honestly, they just don't have the class that the Mustang will have. The Mustang has an image of the ""gentleman's car" in this day and age whereas you may still have visions of a mullet and crystal meth and a 16 year old girlfriend with the early Chevy Camaros.

All joking aside, I'd actually PREFER the 70 1/2 to 72 Chevy Camaro instead of the earlier Camaros because of the more rounded, lower and overall sleeker design. That style to me embodies a better overall image and you still have rarity and high levels of collectability with those years.

Other Notables:

If you get to the year 1973 or 1974 and find yourself in love with an absolute WHALE of a car that breaks all of the above molds, I'd probably try to encourage you in the direction of a 455 Super Duty Trans AM with a manual transmission.
 
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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the one on the lift has been in my family since before my birth.........and it is real.


and the engine stuff i can believe, our craftsman truck/busch engines are in the $40-43K range without headers. A decent intake manifold from wilson will cost you $4-5K and a carburetor will cost you almost $3K. The Sb2.2 blocks in bare unmachined form are $6800 from your local gm parts dealer, and they need lots of machine work to even resemble an engine.
 
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Originally Posted by Christian
What do you guys like better and why, post pics if you own one

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What is this car going to be used for? Vintage open track car or an automatic transmissioned street cruiser?

The '65-6 Mustangs are super light. My '66 GT350 is 2850 lbs with 1/2 tank of gas and full street equipment (carpet, lights, heater, radio, etc.)

The early Camaros '67-8 are nice too. The '69 Camaro is bigger and heavier as are the '67 Mustangs.

Both have incredible race history.

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