Viper business no longer for sale and will live on
#16
07-15-2009, 12:19 PM
Where are you coming from when to say this? IS that a personal thought or a fact? I have personally have pulled 2nd and 3rd,4gen Viper engines to modding them. I have gained 600hp simple mods on the 3rd gen. I just wanting to know if you know something new that I dont. Actually 2nd-gen are the really the best bang for the buck due to the cost of the car buy-in. I have seen 2nd gens put down 600whp after lowering comp with just forged piston and then bolt-ons.
I don't consider any F/I a bolt on. Maybe you have a different oppinion? I don't understand your comment on lowerinig compression, with bolt ons?
Have a look at DCs recent post with results from their dyno day. I realize you have some experience, but I don't see how you can argue the fact that Gen4s respond better to basic bolt ons.
We are still in the middle of sorting through all the video from the afternoon but here are the results from the day....
More to come!
Name: HP / TQ / Mods
Anhtuan Pham: 580.70 / 543.70 (Gen 3) - Headers, cam, intake manifold, 355 gears, heads (Stage 3 by DC Performance)
Sean Casey: 550.14 / 532.62 (Gen 4) - Headers, ECU upgrade, 333 gears
Eddie Arguelles: 509.23 / 473.69 (Gen 4) - Stock
Randy Tribolet: 409.43 / 445.01 (Gen 2) - Roller, rockers, headers
Dan Everts: 545.29 / 519.09 (Gen 4) Bellanger Headers, Mopar Performance ECU upgrade
Angel Calderon: 432.08 / 452.32 (Gen 3) - Stock
Mike Buckingham: 553.45 / 531.20 (Gen 4) - Headers, ECU upgrade
Mike Sinkinson: 431.68 / 446.96 (Gen 3) - Corsa exhaust
Lawrence Kraus: 507.73 / 482.69 (Gen 4) - Stock
Eric Dedominc: 629.77 / 656.13 (Gen 2) - Supercharged
Siam Kobi: 564.58 / 538.41 (Gen 4) - Headers, ECU upgrade
Bruce Li: 540.08 / 516.55 (Gen 4) - Bellanger Headers, Mopar Performance ECU upgrade, 355 gears
Dave Sweeney: 570.05 / 544.88 (Gen 2) - Supercharged
Hugh Hoard: 519.01 / 498.61 (ZR1 Corvette) - Stock
Rick Hollis: 850.38 / 809.82 (Gen 2) - Supercharged...DC engine build Street Stage 4
Ken Alker: 422.28 / 464.38 (Gen 2) - Headers, catback, 355 gears
Jose Avila: 379.42 / 433.69 (Gen 2) - Stock
Bill OConnell: 397.82 / 433.79 (Gen 2) - Stock
Gary Gawlas: 567.17 / 517.96 (Mustang GT500 Supersnake)
Mark Rhodes: 341.67 / 409.05 (Gen 1) - Stock
Best Stock: Eddie Arguelles
Best Modified: Anhtuan Pham
Top Eliminator: Rick Hollis
More to come!
Name: HP / TQ / Mods
Anhtuan Pham: 580.70 / 543.70 (Gen 3) - Headers, cam, intake manifold, 355 gears, heads (Stage 3 by DC Performance)
Sean Casey: 550.14 / 532.62 (Gen 4) - Headers, ECU upgrade, 333 gears
Eddie Arguelles: 509.23 / 473.69 (Gen 4) - Stock
Randy Tribolet: 409.43 / 445.01 (Gen 2) - Roller, rockers, headers
Dan Everts: 545.29 / 519.09 (Gen 4) Bellanger Headers, Mopar Performance ECU upgrade
Angel Calderon: 432.08 / 452.32 (Gen 3) - Stock
Mike Buckingham: 553.45 / 531.20 (Gen 4) - Headers, ECU upgrade
Mike Sinkinson: 431.68 / 446.96 (Gen 3) - Corsa exhaust
Lawrence Kraus: 507.73 / 482.69 (Gen 4) - Stock
Eric Dedominc: 629.77 / 656.13 (Gen 2) - Supercharged
Siam Kobi: 564.58 / 538.41 (Gen 4) - Headers, ECU upgrade
Bruce Li: 540.08 / 516.55 (Gen 4) - Bellanger Headers, Mopar Performance ECU upgrade, 355 gears
Dave Sweeney: 570.05 / 544.88 (Gen 2) - Supercharged
Hugh Hoard: 519.01 / 498.61 (ZR1 Corvette) - Stock
Rick Hollis: 850.38 / 809.82 (Gen 2) - Supercharged...DC engine build Street Stage 4
Ken Alker: 422.28 / 464.38 (Gen 2) - Headers, catback, 355 gears
Jose Avila: 379.42 / 433.69 (Gen 2) - Stock
Bill OConnell: 397.82 / 433.79 (Gen 2) - Stock
Gary Gawlas: 567.17 / 517.96 (Mustang GT500 Supersnake)
Mark Rhodes: 341.67 / 409.05 (Gen 1) - Stock
Best Stock: Eddie Arguelles
Best Modified: Anhtuan Pham
Top Eliminator: Rick Hollis
Last edited by BAD ASS TA WS6; 07-15-2009 at 12:21 PM.
#17
07-15-2009, 11:14 PM
Gen II & III cars are certainly more tuneable and easier to mod. Give the aftermarket some time with the Gen IV's new V.E.N.O.M. controller. Car is pretty awesome stock if I might add. I love the look of the GenII coupe but the III and IV are just way better automobiles.
#18
07-16-2009, 06:30 AM
All Vipers are monsters but the latest Gen Viper is just a demented beast especially with just the usual bolt ons.
#19
07-16-2009, 10:47 AM
Agree to disagree. I was talking rear wheel numbers, BHP is of no use to me. F/I wise sure the previous platforms are easier. But for true bolt on mods and a tune, 600rwhp (or within stones throw) doesn't come much easier on ANY platform.
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