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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jellybone
I just watched a video made my Chrysler where a Dodge PR guy spoke about Viper, it's history and confirmed that Chrysler has decided to confirm the Viper for 2010 and the years ahead...

It's on the VCA site and you can find it on Youtube I think, supposedly the video was posted on Oct.21 so this news that it was killed today sounds strange, who knows..

I know that years ago the next generation viper was supposed to be developed on a new platform along with a Benz sports car (which turned out to be the new SLS), so who knows we could see a new generation Viper as soon as 2011 or 2012?

anyway maybe they killed it but that decision would not make sense considering the video put out a week ago?
True !!! That German article could be old..... Last I heard is that Fiat was keeping the Viper Halo car and dropping the Hemi line (which they should). Also Ferrari was going to produce its first V10 engine for the new Viper line. I guess we will soon see a $200,000 Viper Huh?
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/ne...-v10-9739.html
 

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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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Bummer.

Might be a good excuse to pick up a snake.
 
Old Oct 28, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by snakebitten
Ive seen it all now. Even against Ultra exotics this lame argument is still made

Sad to see the Viper go
It's only lame to those who can't see past it and Viper owners, and it is the truth. Not taking anything away from the ACR, but it's set up for racing. Look how the regular Viper is seconds slower....
 
Old Oct 28, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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The "regular" Viper on the 'Ring list is a 500 hp SRT-10, not the 2008+ 600 hp version like the ACR. From a roll race, the ACR is actually slower than the normal Viper. The ACR is built for the racetrack, but all of those parts are bolt-ons and any Viper owner could copy the modifications easily. Rotors, wheels, tires, wing, splitter, shocks. Stuff that most enthusiasts tend to do anyways in any high performance car.
 
Old Oct 28, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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WTF?!? I thought I was going to see a Fiat racing a Viper, not the cancellation of a vehicle. This SUX.
 
Old Oct 28, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SINISTR Z06
It's only lame to those who can't see past it and Viper owners, and it is the truth. Not taking anything away from the ACR, but it's set up for racing. Look how the regular Viper is seconds slower....

No myopia here just facts man. Ive never seen a hardcore "racecar" with heavy leather seats, AC, radio and 3360lbs. This thing is hardly hardcore imho. All it has is simple old school go fast stuff added to the regular coupe that, as was mentioned, anyone can duplicate. If splitter, rear spoiler and tires is all it takes to disqualify it as a bonafide streetcar then my 350z was also a racecar

BTW you are gonna tell me the Zonda F, Enzo and MC12 werent designed for the track as well? Ill even throw in the Konigsegg as well as it was also beaten by the Viper. For gawd sakes they have race suspensions, monocoque bodies, CCB brakes, aero as well etc. ACR has steel chassis, steel brakes, body add-ons and suspension. Just cant see that caveat making sense against this crowd or any for that matter. The Katech Clubsport Z06 is on the same level as the ACR and I consider both track focused "streetcars". I respect your opinion however and I guess we just have to agree to disagree
 

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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SINISTR Z06
Not taking anything away from the ACR, but it's set up for racing.
uhh...and the enzo, zonda, etc are setup for grocery getting?

theyre all track cars.......the italians are prettier and have fancier construction techniques....but the viper is simply faster. fact is fact.

actually, it's entirely possible that the majority of people would be much more likely to daily drive the ACR rather than the super exotics
 
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You guys missed my point, but go ahead a daily drive a ACR. Hope you have a lot of *** padding. :-)
 
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
The "regular" Viper on the 'Ring list is a 500 hp SRT-10, not the 2008+ 600 hp version like the ACR.
All 3rd gen Vipers are 500hp, all 4th gen Vipers are 600hp. But you can make the 3rd gen get to N/A 600hp pretty quickly with just bolt-ons alone. And the SRT-10 convertables are lighter than the coupes making the convertables slightly faster in acceleration. Now The ACR Viper is really no different than the SRT-10 Viper. The ACR Viper upgrades are no more drastic than the original, including street legal racing tires, two piece brake rotors, adjustable suspension, and front spiltter and rear downforce wing.. No engine modifications were made. And all parts the Viper ACR is using are bolt-on parts for the SRT-10. http://www.snakeoylproducts.com/home.php?cat=292
So a SRT-10 Viper and a ACR is not that big of a difference.
 

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Originally Posted by SINISTR Z06
You guys missed my point, but go ahead a daily drive a ACR. Hope you have a lot of *** padding. :-)
Please such a load, there are a larger number of ACR people driving there cars a lot more then you would guess. They are not terrible.

The Moton III/IV gen cars are just as stiff if not worse then then the ACR's
 
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If you think about it you don't want a cheap version that you own competing with your uber expensive 8C. Take one more of the competition out... Official release of the 8c here I think its a smart idea of Fiat's part, PLUS we might get a better alfa or lancia car out of it
 
Old Oct 29, 2009 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SINISTR Z06
You guys missed my point, but go ahead a daily drive a ACR. Hope you have a lot of *** padding. :-)
Huh?? The ACR actually rides a bit better then a stock 08'. I used to drive my 01' ACR on Motons all the time before selling it, I actually never had one person say it was an uncomfortable ride. I don't consider the ACR a hardcore race car, it has full comfort etc, and the changes to the car are not drastic changes from a stock 08'+, of which even the normal ones whup *** at the track.

Originally Posted by Envy
If you think about it you don't want a cheap version that you own competing with your uber expensive 8C. Take one more of the competition out... Official release of the 8c here I think its a smart idea of Fiat's part, PLUS we might get a better alfa or lancia car out of it
For the cost of the 8C its pathetic, I'd be more worried of running into a normal 911 lol
 

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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SINISTR Z06
You guys missed my point, but go ahead a daily drive a ACR. Hope you have a lot of *** padding. :-)
Have you even driven or ridden in an ACR? If you have, you wouldn't be making such statements. FYI, the ACR actually rides a bit smoother than the 03-06 Gen III cars from the factory. It has stiffer shocks, but it doesn't have the rock-hard runflat tires that the Gen III came with. I changed the tires out on my '06 and it made a huge difference in road bounce, even when going +1 on the wheel size.

ACR rides just fine. Probably no different than the C5 Z06 you have in your avatar. All Vipers are a bit bumpy by nature, but they aren't horrible. Besides, anyone who turns down the purchase of a Viper because they don't ride like a luxury car...probably schedules manicures and has their hair stylist on speed dial. Not exactly the targeted enthusiast for these cars.
 

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What a lame move. Now I'll be stuck paying the premium for a long time to come.
 
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Very, very sad if the news is indeed accurately reported...

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