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Old May 6, 2012 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 007 Vantage
I thought Mercedes is still cross collaborating with Aston. They used astons all aluminum architecture techniques to develop the SLS. Maybach may be dead yes, but I don't think the partnership is dead.
The Al bonding technology is Lotus's not Astons
 
Old May 6, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mikey k
First refresh was the MY09 upgrades - 4.7 console sport pack etc
As you say the 2nd refresh was MY12 - brakes ASM2 box steering
Even with the new refresh the S is still quiet different you could spec a std car up to it but there would not be a lot in the price ( sport pack clear lights sports exhaust CF spoilers etc)
I thought the 2012 only had an updated Nav. I didnt know that the brakes were improved also. What is ASM2 steering? Did they just improve the steering noticeably?
 
Old May 6, 2012 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mikey k
The Al bonding technology is Lotus's not Astons
I was unaware there was any connection between lotus and Mercedes. Aston also uses bonding technology as well so that may still be a possibility.
 
Old May 7, 2012 | 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jyeh74
I thought the 2012 only had an updated Nav. I didnt know that the brakes were improved also. What is ASM2 steering? Did they just improve the steering noticeably?
ASM2 is the new 7 speed gearbox, there is also a new quicker steering rack making it much more "pointy"
 
Old May 7, 2012 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 007 Vantage
I was unaware there was any connection between lotus and Mercedes. Aston also uses bonding technology as well so that may still be a possibility.
Lotus did a lot of development for Aston.
 
Old May 7, 2012 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 007 Vantage
I thought Mercedes is still cross collaborating with Aston. They used astons all aluminum architecture techniques to develop the SLS. Maybach may be dead yes, but I don't think the partnership is dead.
From my understanding, the SLS frame is adapted from the Viper. It is a traditional space frame that is all aluminum but does not use the VH type design or glue bonding that Lotus started on the Elise. There appears to be no current collaboration between MB and AM since the Maybach deal fell through.

As for the next Vantage, I'd expect a very similar model with incremental changes. As long as Dr. Bez is running the show, there will be no major paradigm shifts. In other words, no forced-induction. It's unfortunate, though, as they need to play catch-up. Hopefully they will at least add direct injection.
 

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Oh ok, makes sense. I still think if they use Mercedes new cylinder deactivation technology in their 5.5l AMG motors they would not need turbos to achieve the efficiencies they are looking for (which would in turn not change the overall NA v8 character of the car.)
 
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Originally Posted by 007 Vantage
Oh ok, makes sense. I still think if they use Mercedes new cylinder deactivation technology in their 5.5l AMG motors they would not need turbos to achieve the efficiencies they are looking for (which would in turn not change the overall NA v8 character of the car.)
As others have said that would be moving away from Dr Bez's "cosmetic upgrade" route
 
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Well rumor I heard on the SUV is a merc chassis and engine..also talks of mclaren engine.

For the vantage, only thing I've heard is V8VS becomes the V8V..minus the black intake(sport pack option), exterior looks the same and 7-speed replaces the 6-speed..think the new 2013 is like this..which will come out late this year..think I saw this few weeks ago, the aston site should have it now
 
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Well rumor I heard on the SUV is a merc chassis and engine..also talks of mclaren engine.

For the vantage, only thing I've heard is V8VS becomes the V8V..minus the black intake(sport pack option), exterior looks the same and 7-speed replaces the 6-speed..think the new 2013 is like this..which will come out late this year..think I saw this few weeks ago, the aston site should have it now
Which SUV are you referring to? I haven't heard any rumors of an Aston Martin SUV and I would be willing to bet that AM doesn't have the resources to develop another model line, especially a completely different class of vehicle like an SUV...think new chassis, AWD system...well come to think of it, everything new. Not gonna happen unless they rebadge someone else's SUV:

Bob: "Why does your Range Rover have an Aston Martin badge on it?"

Larry: "Oh this is my Aston Martin Vantwagon."

Bob: "Isn't it just a Range Rover with an Aston Martin badge?"

Larry: "...yes."

Bob: "Bet it was pricey, though."

Larry: "...yes."

Bob: "Did they at least use the supercharged engine?"

Larry: "...no."
 
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Originally Posted by Tahoe M3
Which SUV are you referring to? I haven't heard any rumors of an Aston Martin SUV and I would be willing to bet that AM doesn't have the resources to develop another model line, especially a completely different class of vehicle like an SUV...think new chassis, AWD system...well come to think of it, everything new. Not gonna happen unless they rebadge someone else's SUV:
He might be referring to the Aston Martin Lagonda Concept (aka the Anti-Christ)
 
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He might be referring to the Aston Martin Lagonda Concept (aka the Anti-Christ)
Ooooh yeah I actually forgot about that. I'd be pretty surprised if that made it to production...of course not helped by the poor response it received on the auto show circuit.
 
Old May 11, 2012 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by irish07
For the vantage, only thing I've heard is V8VS becomes the V8V..minus the black intake(sport pack option), exterior looks the same and 7-speed replaces the 6-speed..think the new 2013 is like this..which will come out late this year..think I saw this few weeks ago, the aston site should have it now
That happened a few months ago
Though speccing a new model up to S level still costs more than an S
 
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That happened a few months ago
Though speccing a new model up to S level still costs more than an S
Doesn't matter since you can't spec an S with a manual gearbox anyway.
 
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Sort of related: Has anyone heard if the V12V will have the flappy paddles as an option for 2013? I really want one but my wife won't let me get another manual "for that price". I guess I see her point since it's our car
 


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