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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 08:16 AM
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Add me to the "want a 12C" list. I think it's an amazing car. I wish there was a 6-speed forum where I could learn more about them and ask all the typical newbie questions, but I guess there are too few cars to warrant such a forum.
 
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It will be a great track car in the sub $150k level, it won't be long before it gets there. $60-90k depreciation is conservative, wholesale on that car is falling like a rock.
 
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Originally Posted by jaymoney
. . . I drove this car through 4 states over 250 miles in a single stretch with no issues and felt fine after. . . .
I had to chuckle a bit at this statement. Just the notion that this is a "long" drive for a supercar and that you might not feel okay after, wait for it, 250 MILES! Non-car people must think we're crazy.

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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 09:33 AM
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I have been a dedicated AM enthusiast. I have made it a point to avoid touting any of my other cars on this forum. At the moment, a 12C Spider is my flagship. I spent a lot of time on the decision to make this move and drove everything. There is nothing like this car under a million dollars. There isn't another car that you can drive in any situation with out regret. I have had other cars that are punishing to be in for long distances or traffic. I have had cars that put you on the turf with the slightest slip. I drove this car through 4 states over 250 miles in a single stretch with no issues and felt fine after.

The McLaren makes great drivers out of everyone. It is the easiest car to drive fast that I have ever driven let alone owned. I rally through a windy back road course routinely. I am able to carry speeds 10-15 mph faster with the 12C than my V12V. (No disrespect to the V12V, still a huge fan)

While this forum is light on interest in the McLaren, I can tell you the rest of the world cares, especially the Ferrari, Porsche and Lambo people. You what they say, "If you have made people angry, you must be doing something right." For some reason dirt has to be slung. It's just like the stuff about the AM's being all style and no performance. Now I face the McLaren has no drama crap.

I passed on the 458, the Aventador and all of the 35 Porsches available. Drive this car for an hour and spend some time understanding the technology that is behind it. You will come to understand what makes it special.
I agree with this post 100%. I did test drive one (McLaren brought a car to me! Great service to say the least!) for an entire afternoon and the car drives amazingly well. In normal mode, it feels just a little bit tighter than the V8V but is more balanced and solid. In the sport and track settings the car really tightens up to be more like what you expect. The most impressive thing for me was how fast the suspension changed. It was instantaneous.

With all that said, I didn't buy one for a few reasons;
  1. Depreciation on the coupe is horrendous. I don't know about the Spider since that car wasn't out when I was looking.
  2. The car doesn't have a visceral sound that I like from exotics. Aston sound mean and growl, Ferrari and Lambo scream like banshees, McLaren is kind of meh and in fact uses technology to enhance the sound...
  3. You are getting in and out of a tub. It's much easier than a Lotus Elise but similar in how you have to drop into the seat. I don't mind this but my wife definitely does. This is a not a skirt or dress friendly car .
  4. I don't care for the look of the front end. It's not aggressive enough. I do think the Spider looks a LOT better than the coupe but again, it wasn't out when I was looking.
 

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Originally Posted by karlfranz
Add me to the "want a 12C" list. I think it's an amazing car. I wish there was a 6-speed forum where I could learn more about them and ask all the typical newbie questions, but I guess there are too few cars to warrant such a forum.

http://www.mclarenlife.com/forums/
 
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Yeah, this is what I heard. I can't remember the exact number so I didn't want to say this, but I think it was nearly $100k off for basically a new car.
Wow! The 4c could prove irresistible if it works out at that price......you do have me a little worried about how they'll be able to stay in business long term if that turns out to be the type of discount on offer......could be cheap to buy = very cheap to sell.
 
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Originally Posted by 007 Vantage
It will be a great track car in the sub $150k level, it won't be long before it gets there. $60-90k depreciation is conservative, wholesale on that car is falling like a rock.
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Do you have any more specifics on this? I am very interested if this is a recent phenomena or if this free fall been this case since the car was introduced? Is it a seasonal thing, is there general over-supply?

Any insights would be appreciated.

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I also think it is an awesome car. It is high on my list as well.

BUT - the thing that has kept me from biting is the distance for service/issues... (same with Ferrari) I don't live in a metropolis, so the brand of cars I buy make a difference in their ownership/maintenance. One reason why the Stingray was a no-brainer for the wife.

I'd opt for another Porsche, simply because the dealer is 2 minutes from my house. Buying a car, driving the car, and owning the car can be 3 very distinctly different experiences.

Anybody have any advice? (Except: move)
 
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Originally Posted by jaymoney
Drive this car for an hour and spend some time understanding the technology that is behind it. You will come to understand what makes it special.
It may be very special to drive, but it isn't special to look at or to be in.

McLaren has done a great job of wrapping a spectacularly performing car with an equally unspectacular exterior/interior. When I see one parked up at a car show, a single glance is enough and I move on to something more interesting.
 
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Originally Posted by FatFrank
007,
Do you have any more specifics on this? I am very interested if this is a recent phenomena or if this free fall been this case since the car was introduced? Is it a seasonal thing, is there general over-supply?

Any insights would be appreciated.

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I don't believe they are marking down that much on new cars but I don't know for certain. The used market is where I see the prices dropping like rocks. The reason IMO, the car doesn't look or sound the part it is meant to serve and resale value is hit hard from it.
 
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Plastique: I dig the new avatar pic. I hope my citing of the Jalopnik article in your thread on Fchat didn't dampen your enthusiasm for the new addition. It certainly wasn't meant to!
Of course not, there's a lot of negative press on the CGT which is expected after a celebrity dies in one unfortunately. But with the bad there is always the good.

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It may be very special to drive, but it isn't special to look at or to be in.

McLaren has done a great job of wrapping a spectacularly performing car with an equally unspectacular exterior/interior. When I see one parked up at a car show, a single glance is enough and I move on to something more interesting.
You glance at them?
 
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You glance at them?
Well, they do at least deserve that much.
 
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Whenever I see this (the ugliest steering wheel hub ever designed)....


I can't help but think of this...
 
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Merc SLS are also suffering from heavy depreciation. Will make a great buy in a few years time .
 
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Originally Posted by karlfranz
Add me to the "want a 12C" list. I think it's an amazing car. I wish there was a 6-speed forum where I could learn more about them and ask all the typical newbie questions, but I guess there are too few cars to warrant such a forum.
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