I drove a 4.3L V8V and a 997 C2S before deciding an the Vantage. The C2S was an excellent car, but that was it. It was a great car. The Aston tickled my unmentionables in the good ways. 4 years later, no ragrets.

 

So are you saying the v12 vantage really sucked because of the tranny, nose heavy, or both. I had an 07 vantage a few years ago and recently drove a v12 and was blown away by the difference (both manuals). Just never heard anyone say the v12 really really sucked except for the sportshift, but even that has been heavily debated on this forum.