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Madmikeybee Jan 20, 2016 01:39 PM

Brake Disc Pads
 
Hello,
Does anyone out there have any familiarity with or have used EBC Redstuff Ceramic Brake Pads? Also considering Hawk DTC-70. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks!
Mike

AM V8 Vantage, MY 2007.

mantonkroh Jan 21, 2016 02:32 AM

I heard they suck. I installed Porterfield R4S pads and they are awesome. Barely any brake dust, no noise and has a lot of bite.

larryg Jan 21, 2016 07:36 AM

Porterfield R4S
Perfect

telum01 Jan 21, 2016 07:56 AM

What kind of pad do you want? The Redstuffs are marketed as a fast street pads. The DTC-70 is marketed as a streetable track pad. The Porterfield R4S pads mentioned above are great street pads - quiet, low dust, nice wear. But they don't stand up to track use (personal experience).

Pad choice really depends on what your needs are.

AXARUNNER Jan 21, 2016 08:04 AM

I just purchased a set of Porterfield R4S pads from Stuart and I'm very happy with them. I do plan on tracking them this year. I hope they hold up.

randyb Jan 21, 2016 08:22 AM

I just put EBC Red pads and new rotors on the back and will let you know, only have 50-60 miles on them so far.
On another note, I had them on my Lotus and loved them.

cret Jan 21, 2016 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by AXARUNNER (Post 4459214)
I just purchased a set of Porterfield R4S pads from Stuart and I'm very happy with them. I do plan on tracking them this year. I hope they hold up.

Dan, R4S won't last you a day on the track. Use R4 for the track.

AXARUNNER Jan 21, 2016 09:15 AM

Thanks Cret... I'll double check with Stuart on the type of pads I purchased and change out the pads before this spring should that be the case.

telum01 Jan 21, 2016 09:20 AM

A bunch of people were asking about R4S pads on track so I tested them myself on Summit Point. Great street pads - wouldn't take them to a track again. Had to limit my speeds considerably in two areas.

AXARUNNER Jan 21, 2016 09:35 AM

Lime Rock Park where I typically go has only one BIG braking spot which is at the end of the straight just before the double apex "Big Bend"... which means that I probably could get away with the pads but I'd hate to loose my brakes @ 120 mph.

telum01 Jan 21, 2016 10:05 AM

You'll be able to manage that so long as you limit your top speed and give yourself an extended braking zone. That's what I had to do on those two sections at Summit Point (one was the main straight into a right-hand turn, and the other was a very fast downhill sweeping right into a hairpin left).

papigko Jan 21, 2016 11:52 AM

The R4S won't stand up at LRP I had serious fade issues when I used them on my Evora there. With the extra 500# and an additional 10mph at the end of the straights the R4S will give up quick on a vantage. In a pinch the Yellow stuff pads are not bad but I'd stay away from the reds. I've been the happiest with the combination of R4S on the street and R4 for track days. They have similar compounds so they rebed quickly

telum01 Jan 21, 2016 12:12 PM

Lots of track talk but we still need to know the OP's needs... street only, track only, some middle ground? :)


Originally Posted by papigko (Post 4459350)
I've been the happiest with the combination of R4S on the street and R4 for track days. They have similar compounds so they rebed quickly

Great to hear, I'm planning to test the R4 pads next.

randyb Jan 22, 2016 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by papigko (Post 4459350)
The R4S won't stand up at LRP I had serious fade issues when I used them on my Evora there. With the extra 500# and an additional 10mph at the end of the straights the R4S will give up quick on a vantage. In a pinch the Yellow stuff pads are not bad but I'd stay away from the reds. I've been the happiest with the combination of R4S on the street and R4 for track days. They have similar compounds so they rebed quickly

I am curious, I had EBC red on my Evora and loved them, why do you not like the reds?

GDay2 Jan 22, 2016 10:44 AM

I replaced the original pads with EBC red stuff, did not change the rotors. 500 Km embarrassing squealing, from then on absolute silence, brilliant braking performance and very low dust. I am happy and recommend them.

Cheers

Christian


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