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Old Jul 31, 2022 | 09:27 PM
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Sounds like it's sold @ 10am tomorrow! Pictures are required within the week.
I'm massively overthinking this, mainly because I've always owned newer cars with the original warranty.

The car drove perfect, was in terrific condition and is stunning. The PPI came back with no issues. I talked to the inspector and he said it's a great car.

The list of maintenance and nice upgrades seems to fix known issues and makes the car better.

So unless something weird happens between now and tomorrow then you're probably right.

Oh by the way I'm trading in a car where they are giving me a fair price (it's worth more than the Aston), actually more than I was expecting, so I'm swapping cars and walking away with a check written to me for $7k........
 
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Sounds like it's going well. Are you in California?
 
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She's back in the garage (pic attached)......I'll post more later.

Wow, just wow, what a stunning car.......absolutely blown away. 3 hour drive home and it was pure joy the entire time. Obviously not as fast as my 650HP Camaro, but definitely can get up and go.

As for the warranty. Got a 5 year, 100,000 miles (on top of the current mileage so goes until 152,000 miles), 0 deductible (take car to any Aston Martin dealer or ASE certified mechanic), wheel and tire, covers everything except wear items (clutch, etc.), transferable to the next owner if I sell the car......$4000. All you gotta do is shop around and hang up the phone when folks are trying to reel you in......yes, I did read the entire contract, twice, all the fine print. It's legit......I've attached a pic of the contract.

Company is ASE.

I am beyond excited to own this car. Look forward to engaging with the Aston Martin community.


 
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Sorry, I attached the contract and realized it had my name and address on it so I deleted it......I'll put it back on with that info blacked out......
 
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Here is the contract........

 
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The car looks great with many really good mods leading me to think someone cared about the car more then typical to invest that in it. My 2011 is the 7th Vantage I've owned and the first Aston since my Lagonda out of warranty. Before the 2011, I did purchase through an Aston Martin dealer a 50K mile 2009 Vantage for $40K, however, before shipping to me they were to replace a belt pulley making noise, and when replaced still made the noise - internal to the engine. If I bought from a non-Aston dealer, I could have had to replace the engine. They undid the sale. Would a warranty have replaced the engine on a known defect at sale? I doubt it. Will the warranty replace tail lights that condense and fail? (you should reseal them to avoid this problem). Probably not. My C8 Corvette was purchased with a 3rd party 4 year extended warranty no deductible bumper to bumper - if I bring it to the dealer (3 years factory, then another 4 3rd party) for $1800 extra. My Vantage engine has a extremely small seepage from the timing cover and valve cover, not enough to put a drop of oil on the floor in 9 months ownership. This is also really common - if the weep turns into a leak the fix would be $8,000 at an AM dealer. Would a 3rd party warranty cover a leak instead of a seepage? My 2015 V8 GT (new under warranty) had a transaxle leak - none of my Vantages had such a leak, so probably a rare thing - would that be covered in a 3rd party? A few in the past had Sportshift weirdness (again under warranty) requiring a computer change - would that also be covered under a 3rd party? These are questions to ask, because these are not cheap issues that I have encountered owning Vantages since 2007.
 
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The car looks great with many really good mods leading me to think someone cared about the car more then typical to invest that in it. My 2011 is the 7th Vantage I've owned and the first Aston since my Lagonda out of warranty. Before the 2011, I did purchase through an Aston Martin dealer a 50K mile 2009 Vantage for $40K, however, before shipping to me they were to replace a belt pulley making noise, and when replaced still made the noise - internal to the engine. If I bought from a non-Aston dealer, I could have had to replace the engine. They undid the sale. Would a warranty have replaced the engine on a known defect at sale? I doubt it. Will the warranty replace tail lights that condense and fail? (you should reseal them to avoid this problem). Probably not. My C8 Corvette was purchased with a 3rd party 4 year extended warranty no deductible bumper to bumper - if I bring it to the dealer (3 years factory, then another 4 3rd party) for $1800 extra. My Vantage engine has a extremely small seepage from the timing cover and valve cover, not enough to put a drop of oil on the floor in 9 months ownership. This is also really common - if the weep turns into a leak the fix would be $8,000 at an AM dealer. Would a 3rd party warranty cover a leak instead of a seepage? My 2015 V8 GT (new under warranty) had a transaxle leak - none of my Vantages had such a leak, so probably a rare thing - would that be covered in a 3rd party? A few in the past had Sportshift weirdness (again under warranty) requiring a computer change - would that also be covered under a 3rd party? These are questions to ask, because these are not cheap issues that I have encountered owning Vantages since 2007.
These are good questions and I get your point, that bumper to bumper 3rd party warranties aren't truly bumper to bumper. I totally understand no warranty is perfect, including this one, though it does cover a lot. For me it's piece of mind that allows me to drive the car knowing that for the most part major issues will be covered. Of course there are things that you point out that might not be covered. I guess I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. And here's the bottom line, I'm not rich but I have plenty of $. If a major issue happened that for whatever reason wasn't covered by the warranty and I had to drop $8k to fix it, well then I'd get it fixed. If/when I sell the car years down the road it's also a nice thing to have to give the next owner at least some piece of mind. I'm not gonna overthink it or do more shopping for a different warranty. And here's the real bottom line for me.......as I get older I realize that these are first world problems I'm dealing with. I'm on an Aston Martin forum discussing warranties for a car that very few have the privilege of owning. If this is the biggest worry I have right now (it is) then life is pretty good......
 
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Get to know a good indy mechanic as AM "Stealerships" will rake you over the coals. An $8k repair at AM is probably a $4k or $5k repair at a good indy shop.
 
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What warranty company is that you are going with? I agree, all cars I've sold were worry free for the next owner - it's important.
 
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What warranty company is that you are going with? I agree, all cars I've sold were worry free for the next owner - it's important.
The company is ASE Warranty
 
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Get to know a good indy mechanic as AM "Stealerships" will rake you over the coals. An $8k repair at AM is probably a $4k or $5k repair at a good indy shop.
I am looking for one as I type this......
 
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I actually checked into them - they seem too reasonable considering this is an Aston Martin, however:

At noon today I spoke with Dan the service manager at Morries Aston Martin (Minneapolis) – He was not familiar with ASE, however, he did provide some information for me to ask:This is what I asked:
  • Is this a named exclusion or a named component plan? (he cautioned against a named component contract)
  • Is there a seal or gasket exception? (that's major on an Aston)
  • Is there a ceiling on repairs? An example is a replacement engine is likely to be more than the $18K ASE said an engine cost or is $18K the ceiling?
  • Is there a life ceiling?
  • Is there a maximum labor rate? An example is if they pay only $100hr and Astons current rate is now $215hr.
Looking at the internet I could only find good things about the company. I’ve had Aston’s for 35 years and since 2007 all but this recent one under Aston Martin warranties. I understand wear items like brakes, clutches (an Aston clutch is $7K), etc. would not be covered. I don’t drive hard and this is simply an event car (car shows) and for the past decade I’ve formed the local Aston Martin Group where we drive locally and meet. I just did the 20,000 service and they found no issues and my clutch is about ½ life. For the most part, most Aston owners go for the elegance and don’t beat up the cars, some drive them hard and track them. The Vantages are pretty bullet proof, but they are English, so occasional electric issues but major work is incredibly rare – but if it does occur it’s not cheap. In Minneapolis I don't think you'll find a lot of non-Aston shops qualified and experienced to do Aston work as you would find in California or Florida.

I did get answers:
It is both inclusionary and exclusionary - and would cover major components as well as the minor ones with no deduction - things like seat motors, switches, NAV, and will cover engine seals and gaskets. They also include roadside service and wheel and tire.
Their hourly rate is up to $250 an hour - so Aston rates are covered.
They do have a cap on any single service of $25K, so a completely new engine is still out of pocket if that would happen (highly unlikely).
The cost for 5 years is less than what I was paying Aston for a year. Seems almost too good to be true on an 11 year old car.


 
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I actually checked into them - they seem too reasonable considering this is an Aston Martin, however:

At noon today I spoke with Dan the service manager at Morries Aston Martin (Minneapolis) – He was not familiar with ASE, however, he did provide some information for me to ask:This is what I asked:
  • Is this a named exclusion or a named component plan? (he cautioned against a named component contract)
  • Is there a seal or gasket exception? (that's major on an Aston)
  • Is there a ceiling on repairs? An example is a replacement engine is likely to be more than the $18K ASE said an engine cost or is $18K the ceiling?
  • Is there a life ceiling?
  • Is there a maximum labor rate? An example is if they pay only $100hr and Astons current rate is now $215hr.
Looking at the internet I could only find good things about the company. I’ve had Aston’s for 35 years and since 2007 all but this recent one under Aston Martin warranties. I understand wear items like brakes, clutches (an Aston clutch is $7K), etc. would not be covered. I don’t drive hard and this is simply an event car (car shows) and for the past decade I’ve formed the local Aston Martin Group where we drive locally and meet. I just did the 20,000 service and they found no issues and my clutch is about ½ life. For the most part, most Aston owners go for the elegance and don’t beat up the cars, some drive them hard and track them. The Vantages are pretty bullet proof, but they are English, so occasional electric issues but major work is incredibly rare – but if it does occur it’s not cheap. In Minneapolis I don't think you'll find a lot of non-Aston shops qualified and experienced to do Aston work as you would find in California or Florida.

I did get answers:
It is both inclusionary and exclusionary - and would cover major components as well as the minor ones with no deduction - things like seat motors, switches, NAV, and will cover engine seals and gaskets. They also include roadside service and wheel and tire.
Their hourly rate is up to $250 an hour - so Aston rates are covered.
They do have a cap on any single service of $25K, so a completely new engine is still out of pocket if that would happen (highly unlikely).
The cost for 5 years is less than what I was paying Aston for a year. Seems almost too good to be true on an 11 year old car.

Thanks for looking that up. I wouldn't know to ask all that. The guy I spoke too seemed very knowledgeable. I'm not a gullible person, I can generally tell when someone is lying. He emphasized that he wanted me to call back and ask any and all questions and he would answer them. I do remember that part of the conversation was that the rate was also based on a pre-purchase since I was literally driving up to get the car as we were speaking, so I don't know if that had anything to do with it. I talked to multiple companies and ASE far and away blew the others away with their rates and coverage. The best outcome would be if in 3 years I decide to sell the car I can say that there is 2 years left on an awesome warranty and I never had to use it......
 
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First . I think the Aston timeless warranty is complete garbage in the US. Too many exclusions for something that costs about $4k per year. Good you didn’t go with it. Bank the money.

Second. I looked into third party warranties. They seemed so cheap compared to Timeless. I called my dealer to see their experience with them. They had nothing good to say. Was told they have trouble getting much approved.

Hopefully you never need your warranty. Given how expensive Astons are to repair and how cheap the warranty is I was really inclined to go 3rd party. Even if they turned down almost everything it seemed it would still pay for itself.

in the end, I “ self insured”. LOL.

 

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I opt'd out of the ASE warranty for the following reasons after reading the terms:

Juan, the GM at Morries Aston Martin said the 3rd party insurers often supply the replacement parts that could come from a junk yard - looking at the contract, it actually states that they have the right to supply the parts which means the Aston Dealer will not do the repairs using used parts (Morries won't install parts not purchased through them because if things go wrong they do not want the complaints).

The next term - and this is the big one - they do not warranty cars with any suspension or exhaust modifications - and I have exhaust mods, which leaves them an out - both you and I have Quicksilver, on top of that I have Secondary CAT deletes.
 


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