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I saw that just now on Fox & Friends. Horrific. Makes me think I should put a camera in the garage. I have one for the driveway already.
Is he member on this forum? I suspect he's an AMOC member.
I hope they'll be caught prosecuted fully which I doubt. We are pro-criminal in most of New England. The suspects will get a slap on the wrist at best.
Is he member on this forum? I suspect he's an AMOC member.
I hope they'll be caught prosecuted fully which I doubt. We are pro-criminal in most of New England. The suspects will get a slap on the wrist at best.
I put an apple AirTag in each of my cars. Easy to track and find as long as there is an apple device around, which here in CA is 95% of the time. There is not much one can do against two thugs that have not much to lose. And unless you are Chuck Norris or James Bond, you will get your *** kicked. Lucky he wasn’t shot or stabbed. Terrible situation to be in and I feel for the guy.
In MA if he used a gun to defend himself (in the video) he would've went to prison. Being carjacked does not warrant using in a gun in our state. Cannot speak for CT, but I think they are even more restrictive than MA.
You don’t know that. Being assaulted in your home is not a simple car jack. Had he pulled a gun while being beaten and shot one or both of them, it would be justified self defense.
Only if a gun was used or eminent threat of death in this incident. Neither were witnessed in this video. Carjacking does not constitute lethal retaliation unfortunately.
In MA, you're supposed to run out of the house if being assaulted in the home. Crazy, but that's the way it is in MA.
I've had an LTC in MA for some time. Would never want to actually carry (we are an open or concealed carry state) because the laws are so against someone who defends themselves.
Only if a gun was used or eminent threat of death in this incident. Neither were witnessed in this video. Carjacking does not constitute lethal retaliation unfortunately.
In MA, you're supposed to run out of the house if being assaulted in the home. Crazy, but that's the way it is in MA.
Only if a gun was used or eminent threat of death in this incident. Neither were witnessed in this video. Carjacking does not constitute lethal retaliation unfortunately.
In MA, you're supposed to run out of the house if being assaulted in the home. Crazy, but that's the way it is in MA.
Please don't rely on 911 or police for protection... they come to mop up the mess and file reports.
This is so frustrating to watch. I live in Georgia, where there is a strong castle doctrine and no duty to retreat, and I have Marine Corps combat experience.
These guys definitely would've died in my garage.
These guys definitely would've died in my garage.
ha ha this is true. Good to be in the free state of Florida also...
I've had an LTC in MA for some time. Would never want to actually carry (we are an open or concealed carry state) because the laws are so against someone who defends themselves.
Only if a gun was used or eminent threat of death in this incident. Neither were witnessed in this video. Carjacking does not constitute lethal retaliation unfortunately.
In MA, you're supposed to run out of the house if being assaulted in the home. Crazy, but that's the way it is in MA.
Only if a gun was used or eminent threat of death in this incident. Neither were witnessed in this video. Carjacking does not constitute lethal retaliation unfortunately.
In MA, you're supposed to run out of the house if being assaulted in the home. Crazy, but that's the way it is in MA.
You know that’s BS. You can’t run out of your house while actively being beaten. Shooting to protect yourself from bodily harm would be justified. Read this…
“Even though Massachusetts is a "duty to retreat" state this however does not apply to home intruders. This is due to a MA statute called Castle Doctrine, there is no duty to retreat when the intruder is in your home.”
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You know that’s BS. You can’t run out of your house while actively being beaten. Shooting to protect yourself from bodily harm would be justified. Read this…
“Even though Massachusetts is a "duty to retreat" state this however does not apply to home intruders. This is due to a MA statute called Castle Doctrine, there is no duty to retreat when the intruder is in your home.”
“Even though Massachusetts is a "duty to retreat" state this however does not apply to home intruders. This is due to a MA statute called Castle Doctrine, there is no duty to retreat when the intruder is in your home.”
"In Massachusetts deadly force is legal when the person is in their home and the aggressor forced their way in and is about to severely injure or kill them. There is no duty to retreat when inside one's home."
One could debate if the assailants were about to severely injure or kill.
Very sad to see. At the end of the day, just hand over the keys and get a new one later. Firstly, nothing is your worth your life when someone is potentially willing to take it. Everyone wants to act like a tough guy, until you're not here anymore. Secondly, if you are successful and don't get shot/killed first and you fight back, then all the BS of getting tied up in court for killing someone (whether you're innocent, guilty, standing your ground, castle doctrine, whatever you want to call it) and all the lawyers, money, time, effort, and days in jail, not worth it. We all have insurance and we all have ourselves and our loved ones.
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