PM me with your contact #.
Let's see what we can do..

 

pm sent

 

I have Markski 3 in X design exhaust. As far as absolutes in efficiency or

comparative analysis, can't say that I've either. I'm really not a blind faith

guy, but I am a results oriented guy.

I did a 5.87 60-130 on a k16g setup with Markskis product and tuning.
I didn't wanna show this graph because I did it with stock plenum tb and
Y pipe on Markski custom 93 octane tune. It is a 5.46 60-130 on a28s
and pep, Marks x design exhaust.

I was waiting to post a 5.2 or 5.3 second 60-130 with Markskis race gas tune,
74 mm plenum, tb and 2.5 in Y pipe.

Gonna be dynoing the car soon and we can easily enough strap on some straight pipes
and see the difference. If anyone has a problem with Marks product he'll fix it or
give them their money back. He's a stubborn pain in the *** but he's good people with
excellent product

 

One more thing,

Prodigy and Timnyc, you boys keep talking about " performance data"

Back pressure this back pressure that......

Prodigy, I see the best you got on record is a 5.33 second 60-130
I've had ownership of a 996 turbo for less then a year and I have
a 5.46 second 60-130 and I've never back pressured anything in my
life. In 2 weeks I'll beat your 60-130 and 1/4 mile time. You can count
on it. And I'll do it with my lil ole alpha 28s

Timnyc, you got 10.9 1/4 @ 139.9 time on GIANT turbos that push something
like 75 lb's a minute. WOW! What a feat of engineering lol. You need to
come on down to Huntsville. We could sure use a genius like you at
NASA. I bet you could could hit mid 10s if you had jet propulsion.
Dear lord, my k16g setup would have given you a run for your money.
My lil alphas 28s would obliterate you in the 1/4. A stock 997TT with tune
and exhaust has you in the 1/4.


You boys on the east coast are all the same. ALL bark no bite. I guess
when you live in a giant metropolis all stuffed in there together like
sardines with the thermostat turned way down.... well I guess I'd be
all pissy too.

You boys have been officially checkmated. Neither of you have any data

to substantiate your superior technological know how. I would venture that

neither of you are in any leadership positions. It's certainly okay to advocate

for truth in advertising and the like, but it's not okay to take a condescending

posture and spout engineering superiority when neither of you have more than

mediocre results for your given builds.

I was a fighter in a former life, I still maintain but those days are long gone.

Curious how it was always the guys who couldn't fight who were always shootin

off at the mouth.

 

Ok. After reading all posts (almost) on all 7 pages, here is what I want to know....

Forgetting the maker or quality of the parts, and talents of the drivers, and concentrating solely on design, is it a hands down "yes" that cars making over 800 whp will benefit (to some degree) power-wise from straight pipes over a traditional 3" X-pipe exhaust (w/ no cats)?

...and...

are straight pipes the only other exhaust design that would benefit a car making bigger power, or are some of the "newer" x-designs getting there as well?

I really love the traditional x-design sound, but ready to sacrifice sound for efficiency/power if it's worth it.

 

Lmao very entertaining post from someone that just popped a motor pushing 16Gs, I bet you gathered a lot of data from that experience. My 60-130 is not even close to what's posted there and neither is Tim's 1/4 mile time which is 5yrs old lol. My car runs "no time" and my 10sec pass on the list was on a stock motor that actually held together. But I bet you felt clever sifting thru the list, we need specialist like you up here. As a matter fact why don't u tow that killer wannabe 600whp junk up here and get ran over. Dig, roll, both whatever you want.

Checkmated ? Wake up.

"You never back pressured anything " - you wouldn't know since you never measured and probably wouldn't know where to start.

Only run for its money ur 16g setup gave was to your wallet for a motor rebuild .

Lather rinse and repeat. Good luck !

 

The cars blown head gasket was the result of a faulty fuel pump and I
did learn a lot from that experience. I, like most people, tend to glean
the most useful information out of the more disappointing aspects
of life experiences.

And yes you're right, I don't know how to back pressure an exhaust. I
dare say I have a mechanically inclined bone in my body. I never
implied otherwise. That is why I hire mechanics. Besides, I have a
international business with several thousand people and I wouldn't
be able to do a whole lot of wrenching on my cars even if I were so
inclined.

My argument was platformed on your insisting on empirical data and
the ironic lack of data coming from the accusing camp. The universal
agreement relative to data concerning our purposes here, is that the
data must translate to real world results, namely acceleration. You did
not produce any numbers to substantiate your claims.

You seem to have a total lack of understanding concerning sales and
marketing. You insist that the vendors provide a particular form of
quantifiable information..... that information is of course to be
be determined by you lol. Anything less is unacceptable! You then
indict the vendors who won't capitulate to your narcissistic
demands. You belittle their efforts and pronounce yourself a hero
for the Porsche consumer on 6speed.

In addition, you assume that everyone has the same goals as you.
You drone on and on about the power robbing effect of the x design.
You never once considered that maybe there are a number of guys
who desire a setup based on other criteria. Sound, affordability etc..

As far as running my car over: Going fast has always been a product
of how much money you have and are willing to spend. I'm not interested
in the 1/4 mile track. I do that for Markski. I'll never do a big turbo car
that'll relegate me to the drag strip only. Not interested. However I'll
probably purchase a koenigsegg some time this year. I have a friend
who bought one last year and I drove it in January.....wow.

My goals are simple. I'll have the fastest alpha 28 car. If I blow my
car up 10 more times I'll have it rebuilt 10 more times. Maybe I could
hire you........

 

If your goal is to build the fastest alpha 28 car wouldn't you be thankful for a thread like this because you would want to get the most Potential out of your setup and apparently your exhuast isn't gonna help you reach your goal...

 

I did that 1/4 time 5 plus years ago with gt30r's..... I have faster times to post but unlike you I have much bigger fish to fry.. So being a former fighter do you let all your abilities be know by the people you compete against?

BTW if your primary fuel pump fails you do not deliver fuel to the motor. So how did you pop your motor again? Before you walk into that one let me tell you... Not one 996 has popped the head gasket because the primary pump went bad.. Primary pump fails no fuel is pumped... engine dies... It will not provide enuff fuel to lean the car out.... Even if you keep trying to drive the car on boost.


''mediocre results for your given builds.'' I do my fare share of racing. Can you tell me what car's are 911tuning fully supported? Lets see.. TI, Evoms... There! Protomotive... There! And.."You boys on the east coast are all the same" where there and won the 6speed challenge and beat the king of the streets car to do it!

You need the same treatment as Chad....

You have a real beast their.. It meets all of your performance needs.. Great job..

 

Tim, the "you east coast boys" statement was uncalled for. I apologize.
And yes, you don't show all of your hand when you compete.

The way that prodigy went about this thread was wrong. I am all about truth
and I am all about confrontation and not ***** footin around but there are
ways to handle things publicly and there are ways to handle things privately.
It's a matter of context.

I don't know you and I don't know how fast your car is but I'm bettin it's
fast. I've witnessed you helping people on the forums and Steve speaks
very highly of you. I get the impression you are a guy who speaks his
mind and you are highly opinionated in your fields of expertise. So am I.

I never say anything on the internet that I wouldn't say to a mans face. It
pissed me off to see a bait and attack thread against someone I know and
like. Markski and I have butted heads hardcore but he's an honest guy and
if he were a little more business savvy he'd be a lot richer lol.

My apologies Tim. I was angry and attacked you, unprovoked. As for prodigy
that's a different story. This high hp Porsche community is small so I suspect
he and I will have some "face" time and I assure you I will "work" out my
difference with him. It's easy to insult on the internet. Lets see how prodigy
feels when we eventually meet. Again, apologies to you sir.

and I'll be looking into the fuel pump issue. Thanks for the info

 

I am grateful for all the information I've learned on 6speed. Hypothetically

if the x designed exhaust is the absolute worst thing you could put on

your Porsche, in fact you would be better off running 1.8 bar of boost on

87 octane and An independent team of scientist found a link between brain

cancer and the x design exhaust........

The subject could have been handled with class and respect to those that

market this design. Challenging convention and status quo are the keys

to progress and innovation. I disagreed with prodigys methods and I

think his motive is not to help people but rather it is to showboat and

denigrate certain vendors. Couldn't he have gone about this much

differently?

 

I agree and since my name was brought up again, I will chime in. Seems Mr. Awesome, aka Mark (prodigymb - why he named himself after the teen rapper, IDK) has a beef with Markski. Same theme over and over on his posts - no help, but just name calling.

Here's the thing. In the little 60-130 and 1/4 mile sticky at the top of this forum, Markski has the fastest 996 turbo on the record. That has been many years ago and he still is not beat!

So I say if Mr. Awesome wants to put up, fine, otherwise shut up. Markski has done his time and has a rep. Tim and Mark still have a ways to go before they reach superstar status as Markski.

Plus, like you said, you can contact Markski about anything and he will give you his take, good or bad. He still replies to my crazy e-mails late at night immediately! Other vendors I have used, good luck getting a reply at all...

So if you want to attack someone, I say start with someone with a smaller rep and following than Markski. Attack me, who cares?

You all are just mad cause I called you out for what you are and you are too shallow to see it - called narcissism. Tim is doing some pioneering, that I will agree. No numbers yet, but hope is there. Prodigy - just wants to run his mouth and blindly think we see he is doing something that nobody has - well he hasn't. Heck, Markski has already done it 10x and has a packaged product to let keyboard racers like me do it it too! lol

 

Just to correct something...

Highest MPH 996TT (in the 1/4) in the world - Me
Fastest 996TT in 60-130 in the world - Me
Second fastest 6speed Watercooled 60-130 in the world - Me

Fastest all stock watercooled motor MPH (in the 1/4) in the world - Me
Fastest stock motor 996TT 60-130 in the world - Me

Per sticky post...

All runs were done with straight pipes. Stock motor 60-130 was done AWD with 19's on.

 

You left this one out for some reason?

1/4 mile E.T.'s/Trap Speeds:

996/997/CGT:
In order of E.T.:
09.29 @ 172.7 – EVOMS – Al-Anabi Racing / 997TT AWD
09.67 @ 149.8 – EVOMS / RWD
09.77 @ 150.3 - EVOMS / 997TT AWD EVT1000 package / TIP
09.79 @ 146.4 - dk996tt / 997TT AWD
09.84 @ 135.1 - Champion / 997.2TT AWD /
09.90 @ 149.1 - EVOMS / 997TT AWD
09.90 @ 148.6 - Bahrain 996TT / 997TT AWD TIP
09.91 @ 145.6 - Markski / RWD
09.91 @ 144.3 - UAEturbo / 997 TIP
10.08 @ 148.8 - Powell / RWD

 

Chad I went 10.08 @ 148.8 on a stock motor with a 2.0 60ft and a 10.07 @ 154mph with a 2.3 60ft.

I have had stock halfshafts until just recently. Mark's car was impressive and still is. I do know for a fact that if you find his post they ate up I think at least 1 halfshaft and replaced it at the track. My built motor times were over 1 hour commutes and my stock motor records were 1.5+ hour commutes each way on both. I did not want to be stuck with no ride home.

Don't worry though I won't touch Mayhem's numbers but I do have a few tricks up my sleeve still.