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Another day, another Engine pull

Old Aug 17, 2021 | 12:20 PM
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Thank you for the update @Zaos !

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Old Aug 17, 2021 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Zaos
@Johnny Hotspur GT You could not be more correct. I totally over tightened my vacuum lines, causing their failure. Wish I learned earlier, but they always worked. However, if I weren't such a tight A$$ like I am, it would be fine. I am still not a fan of the Oetiker clamps, but learned not to screw them too much .......




Definitely making me a tight A$$
There's no doubt the hose clamps shouldn't have been used as they dig into the rubber when they're tightened. But my other concern would be what type of rubber hose did you use for the vacuum line? It appears the vacuum hose may have become brittle as well from the excessive heat and the hose clamps exacerbated it.

I know a lot of guys perform this procedure but the use of metal lines with rubber hose that is NOT impervious to heat is going to fail rapidly. Make certain to use adequate vacuum hose. Good luck with the job, very commendable to take that on yourself.
 
Old Aug 21, 2021 | 02:01 PM
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All my lines are metal. I only used enforced rubber hoses, where metal lines meets other connections. The vacuum hoses I used were perfect, just not the tightening.
 
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Update here....
Got my engine back together. All is good on vacuum....ETC.
Then backed the car out of my garage and suddenly could not shift anymore ?????
No forward, no backward, just a big noise while putting into Park again....
I thought of low ATF levels etc, but put my car back on the rack again and had my wife switching gears and,
turns out that the outer right CV joint was dis-engaged....
I had the car properly jacked and programmed?

Either way, this will become another How-To

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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Zaos
backed the car out of my garage and suddenly could not shift anymore ?????
No forward, no backward, just a big noise while putting into Park again....
I thought of low ATF levels etc, but put my car back on the rack again and had my wife switching gears and,
turns out that the outer right CV joint was dis-engaged....
~ZaOs~
Hello @Zaos ,
Sorry to hear this.

I posted yesterday in another thread here about how I had the same issue, somewhat.

I lost the front right CV joint on my A8L W12 while driving, I heard a quick noise, I came to a stop at the light, when I tried to move turning right, the vehicle would not move, no forward nor reverse, and that grinding noise of trying to trying to put a spinning automatic transmission into Park, it only took a few seconds for my brain to kick in on to what that issue was, I hadn't heard that noise in years, way back when I snapped a drive shaft in half on one of my cars with to much power and grip of the tires... 😅

It's strange how our "All Wheel Drive" works, one wheel off the ground and the vehicle goes nowhere, nor will you have any Park, as I tried to explain this to the tow truck driver, as he started the engine and put it in gear again, I had to yell just turn off the engine in gear and use the electric parking brake, he was like, why,, I was like, OMG man...

Lucky, I had a spare output shaft for the transmission at home.

Johnny

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ouch, yup. This job in not a fun one
 
Old Dec 19, 2021 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Zaos
Just after you starting to lift the car over the engine, you must remember disconnecting these two hoses inside the right wheel well

My Engine support contraption
Thanks for the tips. I'd like to ask what your engine support contraption is? That scissor lift platform cart? I'm asking because I'm fixing to pull the engine on my 2008 GTC. I have a forklift and was thinking of making some sort of purpose built engine support I could put on the forks, but your scissor lift platform looks like a good tool for the job, and if I could buy one, that would be one less excuse for not getting to it. And I'll freely admit that tying into this job is rather daunting for me... it's been a lot of years since I've done anything this involved. I'm resigned to likely having to do the job twice, the second time to fix what I don't get right the first time.
 
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Top spannering, there, I feel

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Originally Posted by Dark Green
Why thank you kind sir.

With no hint of apology I feel that if I, as an unqualified amateur (in both senses of the phrase), can do a job like this at home, and succeed, then why does someone who insists on putting their educational qualification in their user name, feel that it is acceptable to ‘ask the Internet’ before troubling themselves to do the basics.
Sadly I fear that the Internet encourages this type of 'learned helplessness'...
Well yes, I understand what you mean. However some knowledge is specialised and some people have more rigidly defined comfort zones. Personally I'm lazy. I could *probably* do what you've done. Probably after a few attempts, and certainly not as well looking. But I don't actually *want* to.

I do try and work out my own problems, but I will ask for help when I run out of ability

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Old Dec 20, 2021 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Dark Green
I used a scissor lift table very similar to that used by Zaos, however it had sufficient length to be able to support both the engine and the transmission.
Thanks for the tips... that's very helpful! Looking your picture of your scissor lift table, I realized I have a capable motorcycle scissor lift table which should be ideal... I'll put some decent casters on it... after I retrieve it from a neighbor who borrowed it a couple years ago. (I'd rather forgot about that till now)
 
Old Dec 21, 2021 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Dark Green
If the motorcycle in question is a Harley, then what follows will not be relevant, but do bear in mind that the fully dressed powertrain assembly weighs somewhere around 600kg, so a motorcycle lift may not be adequate. Also, the castors will have to be suitably rated.
Thanks... your concern is well heeded... I was certainly curious what to expect I'd be dealing with weight-wise. I wildly guessed the complete motor tips the scale around 350kg... but that's rather moot as what I've gathered, it seems apparent the recommended method is to remove the engine, tranny, and front drivetrain as a unit. 600kg (1300lbs) is certainly substantial. My scooter is a Harley dresser, and my motorcycle scissor lift handles it capably, but that bike "only" weighs about 375 kilos (800lbs.). Maybe I'll reconsider my first idea of using my forklift as it's rated to about 1350kg.
 
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Originally Posted by Dark Green
I used a scissor lift table very similar to that used by Zaos, however it had sufficient length to be able to support both the engine and the transmission.

I copied the factory manuals by making pair of support frames – one for the engine, one for the transmission, as shown in the pictures..
I've decided to purchase a scissor lift table for the job. I've spotted a reasonable deal on a 1500lb. capacity model with a 2ft. (60cm) x 4ft. (120cm) top, but going with the old saying: "Measure twice, buy once." I'd like to ask your opinion: "Should" the 2ft. width suffice? It seems the 4ft. length should be just right. I figure on fabricating a set of support frames like you did. I have other applications for a scissor lift table, and this 2' x 4' model is just right for those other applications... or rather: wider would be less desirable for the other applications. I threw a tape measure across the bottom of the replacement engine I have for my GTC... and a 2' width platform looks like that "should" be serviceable. Eh?
 
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Just a stalker here, trying to understand what is involved in owning a Bentley before I buy,
I would believe that you may want to use a clamp tite tool system for securing the rubber hose to the steel vacuum lines.
They make a very nice clamp easily.

https://clamptitetools.com/collectio...ptite-tool-kit

 
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