335I Gets New Wheels, Brakes, and Exhaust
#46
I love opinions, hence this post. Its funny to read purists though.
So if you think it looks like a civic... here are all the cars I have built or owned myself. I have had IForged on a RX8, Volks on Subarus, Advans on EVO's, and 22's on a Escalade. I have ran IForged on a 996C2. For the record if Volk had the CE28 available for the Porsche, I would run those too.
http://www.myvividracing.com/forumdisplay.php?f=151
So if you think it looks like a civic... here are all the cars I have built or owned myself. I have had IForged on a RX8, Volks on Subarus, Advans on EVO's, and 22's on a Escalade. I have ran IForged on a 996C2. For the record if Volk had the CE28 available for the Porsche, I would run those too.
http://www.myvividracing.com/forumdisplay.php?f=151
#48
Originally Posted by 996Yayo
but at the same time i never expected all opinions to fall at either one end of the spectrum or the other. i mean i can understand that even an enthusiast might find the look "unattractive." But as an enthusiast myself, there's something about the "form follows function" approach that makes this car attractive.
also, i wouldn't just throw me into a particular demographic based on the cars i own. i chose the Supra over Porsche and BMW. had i not found this diamond in the rough, i'd be driving either an e46 M3 or a 996 Carrera. i know Volk isn't a wheel brand you often see on Porsche's, but its a trend that's catching on. think about it - Neez and Work are both popular wheel brands with the Porsche crowd (and the euro crowd in general), and they are both manufactured in Japan. i guess i'm just trying to figure out if people genuinely don't like the look of TE37's, or if its just this particular car/wheel combination that people don't like, b/c i see alot of posters already who are jaded by the "rice" stigma. i mean lets face it, this car does not look like a Civic with BMW badges...it looks that way to someone b/c he/she is used to seeing these wheels on Japanese cars, not German cars. someone needs to break the mold, innovate, and mix it up a bit, just like Jedidiah said above.
also, i wouldn't just throw me into a particular demographic based on the cars i own. i chose the Supra over Porsche and BMW. had i not found this diamond in the rough, i'd be driving either an e46 M3 or a 996 Carrera. i know Volk isn't a wheel brand you often see on Porsche's, but its a trend that's catching on. think about it - Neez and Work are both popular wheel brands with the Porsche crowd (and the euro crowd in general), and they are both manufactured in Japan. i guess i'm just trying to figure out if people genuinely don't like the look of TE37's, or if its just this particular car/wheel combination that people don't like, b/c i see alot of posters already who are jaded by the "rice" stigma. i mean lets face it, this car does not look like a Civic with BMW badges...it looks that way to someone b/c he/she is used to seeing these wheels on Japanese cars, not German cars. someone needs to break the mold, innovate, and mix it up a bit, just like Jedidiah said above.
Generally speaking most people that want the lightest weight high quality and strong racing wheel will get Volks. That being said, the person wanting a lightweight racing vehicle doesn't normally buy a ~$50k BMW 335i. It's a completely different starting point for the modifications that have now been added to this car. Some might ask the question "Why?" because of this. If you want a lightweight race car, why start with a 335i?
And this has nothing to do with "rice." I wouldn't call this car rice, because it's not. In my first response to this thread, I stated that it's definitely a car that is purpose built, and isn't for the best looks of the bunch, but for the best FUNCTIONALITY of the modifications received.
That, and it's a great opportunity to bust the ***** of the owner of Vivid As he said, though, when the stuff is coming on for free, I would take all the criticism in the world as I looked at the positive numbers in my bank account.
No harm, no foul guys... just fun discussion. Best of luck with this car, and I'm sure it will be a beast when it's finished. Is it what I would personally do to a 335i? No. But I don't own it, so that doesn't really matter!
Take care,
Brad
#49
Originally Posted by vividracing
I love opinions, hence this post. Its funny to read purists though.
So if you think it looks like a civic... here are all the cars I have built or owned myself. I have had IForged on a RX8, Volks on Subarus, Advans on EVO's, and 22's on a Escalade. I have ran IForged on a 996C2. For the record if Volk had the CE28 available for the Porsche, I would run those too.
http://www.myvividracing.com/forumdisplay.php?f=151
So if you think it looks like a civic... here are all the cars I have built or owned myself. I have had IForged on a RX8, Volks on Subarus, Advans on EVO's, and 22's on a Escalade. I have ran IForged on a 996C2. For the record if Volk had the CE28 available for the Porsche, I would run those too.
http://www.myvividracing.com/forumdisplay.php?f=151
If you wanted "personality," why get Volk's that are on 3 bazillion cars? You could've gotten something a little more rare, like those incredibly nice looking Volk 5 spokes in a gunmetal finish with a polished lip (which probably won't be rare by the time you read this). Or, something completely custom that only your 335i would have had. I'm sure iForged would have made you something specifically for this car, considering you're most likely one of their largest volume dealers.
The real reason isn't personality, it's because it's a "gift" from Volk
B
#51
Originally Posted by evilb
Wasn't trying to stereotype you at all, but you have to admit that the Japanese culture is much, much different than the German/Euro culture. The types of modifications that follow are also completely different.
Originally Posted by evilb
Generally speaking most people that want the lightest weight high quality and strong racing wheel will get Volks. That being said, the person wanting a lightweight racing vehicle doesn't normally buy a ~$50k BMW 335i. It's a completely different starting point for the modifications that have now been added to this car. Some might ask the question "Why?" because of this. If you want a lightweight race car, why start with a 335i?
Originally Posted by evilb
And this has nothing to do with "rice." I wouldn't call this car rice, because it's not. In my first response to this thread, I stated that it's definitely a car that is purpose built, and isn't for the best looks of the bunch, but for the best FUNCTIONALITY of the modifications received.
Originally Posted by evilb
If you wanted "personality," why get Volk's that are on 3 bazillion cars? You could've gotten something a little more rare, like those incredibly nice looking Volk 5 spokes in a gunmetal finish with a polished lip (which probably won't be rare by the time you read this).
BBS LM's are found on a bazillion cars and played out as hell, but i'd have a hard time convincing anyone here that euro cars on LM's suffer from the same "personailty" problem, despite being FAR more popular on BMWs/Porsches than any Volk wheel. and part of the problem is that i personally think very few cars sporting LM's lack personality. but if "personality" is based on "popularity," then it should be known that several iconic wheels (such as the BBS LM, for example) are as popular on euro's as Volks are on Japanese cars. just food for thought...
#53
Those M's look hot! BTW this car is not a race car, it was purchased for product development. We have worked with Rotora, Agency Power, Vorsteiner, Progress, and some others to release 335I products
#54
i dont know why people think there is a dumb rule you can't put Japanese parts on a Euro car or vice versa... everyone is entitled to a comment, but I think everyone's definition of the word "rice" is bias from their own personal experience...
#56
Originally Posted by attic2zoo
i dont know why people think there is a dumb rule you can't put Japanese parts on a Euro car or vice versa... everyone is entitled to a comment, but I think everyone's definition of the word "rice" is bias from their own personal experience...
What I am not quite sure of is whether it is purely aesthetic or if there is actually some feeling of slight towards jdm or asian design/products. My gut instinct is that it is purely aesthetics but I could be wrong.
I'd like to see the car and will stop by next week. A lot of times pics do not do justice. I would also mention that I know the guys at vivid are serious enthusiasts and whether this look is right or wrong it doesn't mean you have to buy it. There customer service has been great the couple of times I have worked with them and that is more important to me than their personal tastes. Even though I may not like it, I respect that they are at least looking at other angles. I would have slapped a tried and true set of BBS on it and called it good. Yeah they work but maybe a bit played out.