Buying a 10-year-old Cayman S... Is it a bad idea?
#16
Completely agree with previous replies-
These cars ARE built to last! They don't need to babied and pampered. It all goes back to Porsche's racing pedigree, these cars are meant to take a beating. The IMS is by far the only real thing to look out for, I've had 2 IMS horror stories, one on a 996 C2 coupe that I ended up scrapping (high miles, and I saw it coming, partly myself to blame lol), and my 2006 Cayman S.
Call me sick but I was actually fine with the Cayman going. I still have the car, tore the motor out and am waiting for a little downtime where I can do the Renegade Hybrids LSX conversion. It's always been my dream to have a killer 400+ horse american V8 in an iconic P-car.
I've learned from my IMS endeavors and did an LN Engineering IMS retrofit on my 997 C2S amongst a bunch of other fun modifications.
Regardless, I've seen base 996's hit 200k miles (no joke) on the original motor with no problems. A good bit of info I can share from a longtime Porsche technician/junkie, the IMS issue tends to show mainly between 35k miles to 70k miles.
These cars ARE built to last! They don't need to babied and pampered. It all goes back to Porsche's racing pedigree, these cars are meant to take a beating. The IMS is by far the only real thing to look out for, I've had 2 IMS horror stories, one on a 996 C2 coupe that I ended up scrapping (high miles, and I saw it coming, partly myself to blame lol), and my 2006 Cayman S.
Call me sick but I was actually fine with the Cayman going. I still have the car, tore the motor out and am waiting for a little downtime where I can do the Renegade Hybrids LSX conversion. It's always been my dream to have a killer 400+ horse american V8 in an iconic P-car.
I've learned from my IMS endeavors and did an LN Engineering IMS retrofit on my 997 C2S amongst a bunch of other fun modifications.
Regardless, I've seen base 996's hit 200k miles (no joke) on the original motor with no problems. A good bit of info I can share from a longtime Porsche technician/junkie, the IMS issue tends to show mainly between 35k miles to 70k miles.
#17
I say do it! I just purchased my first p-car two weeks ago.
07 Cayman Base with 66k miles- Atlas Grey, 5-speed, bi-xenon and 18" Cayman S wheels. It was slightly higher mileage than I was looking for, but for a hair above $16k on a clean single-owner car that has been to a Porsche dealer for every single service it was just too hard to say no.
Keep an eye out, there are some great deals out there!
07 Cayman Base with 66k miles- Atlas Grey, 5-speed, bi-xenon and 18" Cayman S wheels. It was slightly higher mileage than I was looking for, but for a hair above $16k on a clean single-owner car that has been to a Porsche dealer for every single service it was just too hard to say no.
Keep an eye out, there are some great deals out there!
#18
I say do it! I just purchased my first p-car two weeks ago.
07 Cayman Base with 66k miles- Atlas Grey, 5-speed, bi-xenon and 18" Cayman S wheels. It was slightly higher mileage than I was looking for, but for a hair above $16k on a clean single-owner car that has been to a Porsche dealer for every single service it was just too hard to say no.
Keep an eye out, there are some great deals out there!
07 Cayman Base with 66k miles- Atlas Grey, 5-speed, bi-xenon and 18" Cayman S wheels. It was slightly higher mileage than I was looking for, but for a hair above $16k on a clean single-owner car that has been to a Porsche dealer for every single service it was just too hard to say no.
Keep an eye out, there are some great deals out there!
#19
Completely agree with previous replies-
These cars ARE built to last! They don't need to babied and pampered. It all goes back to Porsche's racing pedigree, these cars are meant to take a beating. The IMS is by far the only real thing to look out for, I've had 2 IMS horror stories, one on a 996 C2 coupe that I ended up scrapping (high miles, and I saw it coming, partly myself to blame lol), and my 2006 Cayman S.
Call me sick but I was actually fine with the Cayman going. I still have the car, tore the motor out and am waiting for a little downtime where I can do the Renegade Hybrids LSX conversion. It's always been my dream to have a killer 400+ horse american V8 in an iconic P-car.
I've learned from my IMS endeavors and did an LN Engineering IMS retrofit on my 997 C2S amongst a bunch of other fun modifications.
Regardless, I've seen base 996's hit 200k miles (no joke) on the original motor with no problems. A good bit of info I can share from a longtime Porsche technician/junkie, the IMS issue tends to show mainly between 35k miles to 70k miles.
These cars ARE built to last! They don't need to babied and pampered. It all goes back to Porsche's racing pedigree, these cars are meant to take a beating. The IMS is by far the only real thing to look out for, I've had 2 IMS horror stories, one on a 996 C2 coupe that I ended up scrapping (high miles, and I saw it coming, partly myself to blame lol), and my 2006 Cayman S.
Call me sick but I was actually fine with the Cayman going. I still have the car, tore the motor out and am waiting for a little downtime where I can do the Renegade Hybrids LSX conversion. It's always been my dream to have a killer 400+ horse american V8 in an iconic P-car.
I've learned from my IMS endeavors and did an LN Engineering IMS retrofit on my 997 C2S amongst a bunch of other fun modifications.
Regardless, I've seen base 996's hit 200k miles (no joke) on the original motor with no problems. A good bit of info I can share from a longtime Porsche technician/junkie, the IMS issue tends to show mainly between 35k miles to 70k miles.
I would have to disagree with your statement that is the only thing you need to worry about. The oil starvation, rod bolts stretching, AOS, steering pump overheating and water pump are the real issues but mainly if you are tracking the car except for the water pump. With the number of 987.1 Caymans that are out there and what I've mentioned above about how many actual failures documented or not. It's more like a 1 a 500 deal, if that.
I've owned my 07's since day one and it is an awesome way to get from point A to point B the long way around. Thanks.
#20
Updates?
I'd like to propose the same question now two years later. Looking at 10 year old Cayman with 30K budget. Lots of nice 2008s out there, but the 9A1 will be 10 this fall. Also, I see DJTomy has the Stage III Cayman listed now still at 15K miles. Nice show piece for someone there.
#21
Thank you, I do appreciate the kind words. I love my CS and will probably keep it forever. I do have it for sale, but only because their tearing up the road in front of my house for the next 2 years! (8 miles) I do drive it, and start it every couple of weeks. Even if it’s only down my driveway. On mine, It’s not a bad choice for the price and performance that will rival a GT2 and GT3 for under 50k.
#22
That's why I "passed" on all Boxsters prior to 2013.
It's amazing that Porsche was able to keep this quiet for so long.
#23
I've owned my 96' 911 for 8 years, my 07 997TT for 4.5 years, and now an 01 Boxster S (IMS upgraded)
I would go with a properly maintained car with reasonable miles. When I bought my 07 it had 8k miles, my 96' had 28k, and my 01 had 56k. My point is don't be afraid of a car that wasn't driven.
Enjoy the car , do your own maintenance, and track it when you can. You will enjoy the car more, and cuss the over engineered structure. Like removing 3 parts to access something, that on any other car would have a snap panel..
I use all of my saved service money to do upgrades and cool tools. The cars aren't that complicated to work on...they just require patience.
I would go with a properly maintained car with reasonable miles. When I bought my 07 it had 8k miles, my 96' had 28k, and my 01 had 56k. My point is don't be afraid of a car that wasn't driven.
Enjoy the car , do your own maintenance, and track it when you can. You will enjoy the car more, and cuss the over engineered structure. Like removing 3 parts to access something, that on any other car would have a snap panel..
I use all of my saved service money to do upgrades and cool tools. The cars aren't that complicated to work on...they just require patience.
Last edited by shadow993; 06-25-2018 at 08:51 PM.
#24
Id like to see the documentation on the IMS bearing that you had fail in a 06+CS. Its my understanding that is less than 1% on tracked vehicles sustaining 6.5K+ RPM's.
#25
Another huge flaw shows up in the 981 series with the PDK....as they did not integrate the TCU into the console so that PDK fluid levels (Pentosin and Differential Gear lube) levels could be monitored. That was really bad IMHO.
I doubt anyone but the executives at Porsche have the true failure rate figures.
#26
My dealings with PNA has produced evidence that Porsche is not all that transparent about design flaws.
Another huge flaw shows up in the 981 series with the PDK....as they did not integrate the TCU into the console so that PDK fluid levels (Pentosin and Differential Gear lube) levels could be monitored. That was really bad IMHO.
I doubt anyone but the executives at Porsche have the true failure rate figures.
Another huge flaw shows up in the 981 series with the PDK....as they did not integrate the TCU into the console so that PDK fluid levels (Pentosin and Differential Gear lube) levels could be monitored. That was really bad IMHO.
I doubt anyone but the executives at Porsche have the true failure rate figures.
Last edited by djtomy; 10-04-2018 at 10:58 AM.
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