That's hott!

 

I really like those rims...anyone know the size, offset, and brand of those rims...they look like they might be OZ rims from the pics, but not sure

 

Mis Shift, yeah figured so

Boy this is getting pretty heated lol, you keep talking about modded Caymans while I'm thinking stock vs stock. Granted the TT will get its *** kicked on a short and twisty track, but there are tracks and there are tracks if you know what I mean.

A GT3 is race derived hardcore 911 wich is way more track dedicated than a Turbo, in all fairness whe should compare the 997 GT3 with the Cayman because the chassis design of the 996 is what, 10 years old?

 

Heh, I don't think anyone is getting heated?

Also, this thread is about modded caymans. Seemingly lots of cayman mod activity. . . tuners recognize a notable opportunity with this car.

 

So far , the best in terms of Looks is the Techart Cayman S,
but I am eagerly willing to see a finished Sample of a Ruf Cayman S

 

You're right, 'heated' isn't the right term to use. Let's see, why don't we call it a 'dynamic discussion' shall we?

Now I started this thread so I realise it's about a modded Cayman, my replies to JP st Louis's posts were made from a stock vs stock point of view.

 

I think comparing stock cars is a foregone conclusion since Porsche worked pretty hard to detune the Cayman so it didn't infringe on its big brother's territory.

It's interesting. I tend to read that sort of stuff on the net and the mags and think 'yeah, whatever, just a bunch of conspiracy theory stuff. . blah blah.'

Then you talk to some of the race shops that have torn apart the cayman and you realize that there's quite a bit of truth in that. In fact, Porsche AG has communicated to several privateer race teams that they do not want to see the Cayman raced, and have even approached at least one race series and stated that they would not endorse the Cayman if allowed in, and will not support it if it is allowed.

Also rumors of experiments with cup cars having the engine moved forward and down ever so slightly.

Hmmmm.

 

Ok maybe I should explain that there's a very similar debate going on in the Exige S thread - Cayman vs Exige - in wich both I and JP S St. Louis have taken part and perhaps I confused these threads.

Yes the mid-engined platform has the most potential as a handling platform, but if Porsche would change the 911 from being a rear engined car into someting else they would probably (further) alienate a considerable amount of the costumers who consider themselves 'purists'.

In the thread I mentioned above, I stated that I'd rather take an Exige over a Cayman mainly because in stock form the Cayman is what you said, detuned, in other words not as good as it could have been. Again this is all from a stock vs stock point of view, if you take in consideration the potential wich a modded Cayman has, then that's a whole different story.

 

Let's get this straight I am one of the most passive people when it comes to E-debates. I am only stating like frayed said that Porsche is now protecting the inferior 911. (flame on) Porsche AG should go race the Cayman and create lineage but instead they would rather sell you the 100 plus thousand dollar cars not the 50-75 grand …. BTW: The best so far is the Cayman GT 550HP bi-turbo..Wicked cool

Peace
Josh

 

I think we both respect and like the mid-engined Porsches but we also know that if Porsche was to stop production of their rear-engined cars there's quite a possebility that Porsche would seize to exist. The rear engined cars are part of what gives the Porsche brand its unique character, if they loose that well hell what reasons will still be there to buy a P-car? Because they make a good mid-engined car? Well so does Lotus.

Peace 2 u 2
Sebastian

 

please do not forget, because of the number of units of Boxster’s produced and the pepper, you can look at those for helping Porsche become the most profitable car company. 12-15 years ago Porsche came very close to being bankrupt.

 

I am fully aware of that, but it's like Land Rover: without the Defender Land Rover would loose a very important part of its soul and although they don't sell as many Defenders as Disco 3/Range Rover Family/Freelander, the Defender is still the brand icon. Regardless of what the Ford guys will say.

 

i have a cayman s and elise sport pack. elise is stiffer, but it's no faster than cayman. the two car produce same lap time, within 1 sec depending on how i feel that day.

and before ppl say that caymans are 70-80k, well, they either dont know how to option the car or can't haggle, i got two caymans both 60k out the door.

 

What's interesting is that the Elise was supposed to be a hardcore, focused, ltw, track car. It has no redeeming features as a street car. In reality, it underdelivers for a car that is supposed to be that hardcore. I was on the wait list for one, and drove my dealer's demo twice, and was left underwhelmed.

Pretty interesting that the Cayman, with all its refinement and daily usability is as fast as a car like the Elise. Could you imagine of the Porsche built a cayman under a directive to build the most focused track car they could?

 

Since they got in all that trouble, why didn't they fit an LSD too? I have to say the car looks very sweet and especially the side vents.