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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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Help with Carrera S first wax

Hi all, I'm getting ready to give the first wax to my 07 Carrera S. I've read what I can online, but my main fear is doing harm. I read all about getting rid of swirls, but I honestly don't believe I have any. So how do I make sure I don't introduce any?

I'm leaning toward the Menzerna Final Polish and the FMJ to seal it. I worry about using a polish because of the abrasives. Again, I really don't want to do any harm. I don't think I need to remove oxidation or anything else do I?

I plan to clay the car after washing. It's low mileage and only driven in good weather.

The color is silver. I plan to do this by hand because (are you seeing a pattern) I'm worried about damaging the finish since I'm such a newbie.

Any advice you can provide would be greatly appreciated!

Many thanks!
 
Old Apr 11, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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congrats on the new car what color is it?

also will you be using a PC at all or any type of machine.

if not why not just clay it, hand polish it, then seal or wax it?
 
Old Apr 11, 2008 | 09:35 PM
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Hi Pyiu, actually I bought it new last year. This is just its first wax. It's silver. Is PC a polisher? I plan to do it by hand.

Exactly, I want to clay it, polish then seal. But my fear is the abrasiveness of the polish. Suggestions?
 
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The PC is an orbital polisher.

Do you have a budget, Swissvax has a great kit.

Wash/Cleaner Fluild/Wax cleaner fluid is a very gentle pre cleaner to prep the paint with by hand, it will clean up the paint for the wax, this will not hurt your paints finish.
 
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I've looked at Swissvax. It's not the cost that keeps me away. I'm really more into the sealants than the wax. Although I enjoy a day in the garage with the car it's not something I can do that often. So I'd rather go for the best protection (sealants) and sacrifice the wet look of a good wax.
 
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go with Einszett paint polish then follow with Einszett Glanz Wax.

Glanz wax is very durable and has a great look to it.
 
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Thanks for that. I've read up on the Einszett products and they seem to be well-liked. Again, when I read about the polish it talks about removing oxidation, tree sap, etc but my finish is very clean already. How do I make certain I don't introduce swirl marks?
 
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I wouldn't be afraid of that but if you are just wax it.

The Einszett Paint if you put some on your fingers and rub you will feel little to no abrasives.

if you are afraid I would move to Adam's Revive Polish as there are virtually no abrasives in them its more like a glaze.
 
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Originally Posted by btromp
How do I make certain I don't introduce swirl marks?
Make sure you use good applicator pads and microfiber towels.
 
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2nd make sure they are clean as well each time you use them.
 
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Just keep it simple btromp and use quality products. Don't be afraid of polishes as there are many different grades of aggressiveness. By using a simple hand polish like p21s paint cleanser or zymol hd-cleanse, you're not going to damage or make further swirls or scratches. You gotta make sure you're using quality pads to apply the product and quality towels to remove the products. I find that the einszett paint polish is best suited for a da polisher than by hand. Now for waxing...once again, if you want to go simple and effective, einszett glanz is very user-friendly and has a great look since it's a hybrid of synthetic and natural carnauba. If you want to step it up a bit and use a wax that gives you more depth, try zymol Titanium. It too is very easy to use and will give you excellent protection and depth. Hope this all helps.
 
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Again, I really appreciate the advice. What keeps me away from the Einszett and the Zymol are that they both have Carnauba wax and I'm really going for durability. The Adam's Revive polish does appear to be pretty gentle. What would you think about using the Adam's Revive Polish with the Menzerna FMJ? The FMJ seems to be pretty popular and long-lasting. Based on what I've read I can do both by hand rather than a polisher.

Another newbie question...do folks ever use one of the carnauba waxes between the polish and the FMJ step? I know Zymol also makes a Glasur for Porsches and I was wondering if that would be good to put on before an FMJ type product. Does that give you the best of both worlds meaning the shine and the durability?
 
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That should be fine Revive Polish followed by FMJ, however Einszett Glanz is a polymer based product with carnauba in it...it last longer than FMJ.

I would stick with either fmj or Swissvax (carnauba based) I don't like top coating a sealant or going back and forth between a sealant and wax but that's just me.
 
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Like you I was worried about polishing. I was buying supplies from Phil and was basically procrastinating because I wasn't comfortable useing the porter cable. I think I was actually shaking the first time I put it to the paint. By the time it was done I put a lot of time into it, but it was well worth it. The sponsors won't steer you wrong, I live in a remote area so I had to trust their recomendations. Before I tried Swissvax I was a fan of Zanio, and I plan on doing my Honda with it to compare durability. (plus I have stuff to use up). Everyone says it's all about the prep and I have to agree. If you think of it as another hobby it makes it easier to justify the time. Plus with all the work I think I lost a couple pounds. JK. Up until three years ago I thought putting turtle wax on a car was babying it. The more you do the better it looks, but be warned it gets addicting.
 
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It sounds like you just want a good sealant on there. You have swirl marks on the car, if it has been washed, & driven, it has swirls. One dealer car wash, & your swirled. This doesn't mean they are deep, or harsh, just there.

How much time do you want to put into it? How strong are your hands, & shoulders? Polishing by hand, is tough work, & takes quite a bit of time. I will ONLY hand polish single stage cars, it will take most of the day, as I have to rest after a couple of panels.

Both Zymol/swisswax are awesome products, with top shine/gloss. But both are also the most work but are very "hand" friendly.

Really if you want to take care of the car, & plan on doing normal washes & wax. Get the PC kit, & the 1Z kit! It's almost idiot proof, & gives great results!
 

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