Got my package #3 today and can't wait to try out the Flex unit. Great build quality and very powerful.

Moe, these packages are great. Keep them coming!

 

Barrister, I know you're a Zaino man. Won't using a flex to correct the pain effectively remove all the layers of Zaino you have on your car? Or are you switching to a polish, wax and seal and away from Zaino?

I ask because Im waiting to Zaino my car after it gets paint corrected.

 

You got this all wrong strada... using a flex, with any polish/pad combo, will remove ANY layer of wax or sealant, not only Zaino... you're making it sound like you either use Zaino or you use a machine, polish, then another wax or sealant to properly correct and protect the paint... Zaino is just a brand, so even if he uses another polish with the Flex to correct the paint, he can still protect it with Zaino... if I misread your post I sincerely apologize

 

^ Ivan, you did misread what I meant. haha quite alright obviously, no need to apologize.

I was trying to confirm that that a flex/PC will remove any products currently on the surface. I mean it makes sense as it's re-leveling the clear, thus everything on it also.

My question was more confirming that it would remove it and a question to Barrister if he is sticking with Zaino after the correction or moving onto something new...
I see where it was ambiguous though, thanks for clarifying, if not for me, but for others too.

Next weekend I'm going to have my paint corrected and I have to wait until then to redo the "wax" layer on my car.

A question I do have is whether I should wash and clay the car before the paint correction or just wash?

 

The Flex should remove everything. But so will a Dawn wash - which you should probably do before you clay bar your car to remove any left over wax, polish or sealant. Also, I don't plan on using the Flex unit every week - or every month. Just as needed when my cars start to show some imperfections. Ivan and/or Moe - and the other pro detailers - can eithe confirm or correct me on this.

I love Zaino. I have been a faithful user for over 2 years now. I fully plan to still use it. You can use the Flex and Menzerna to get rid of paint imperfections and then use the Zaino like you would any wax or sealant. I even know people who put a coat of Zaino on, then a good carnuba wax, and then another coat of Zaino on top of that! Now, I don't know about that, but you can certainly use the Flex, Menzerna and Zaino together. To be honest, while I still really like Zaino, I am always on the look out for new and better things. If I find a product that works better than Zaino - or just as good but is easier to prepare and apply - I will likely go with it.

I think you have made a good choice with Zaino. Sal is a good guy and will answer your questions personally if you email him. If done right, Zaino can make a car look better than new, and it lasts a really long time. But don't get married to it. I love detailing and enjoy trying out a lot of different products. Maybe some day I will settle on just one thing. But for now, I am trying a lot of different systems.

Good luck!

 

haha gotcha... at least I covered all my bases... called you dumb, but apologized j/k of course, glad you're up to date on detailing terms/processes... I partly posted that because yesterday I had a 30 minute long conversation with a potential client about the fact that clay bar simply cannot remove swirls, and he was amazed...


Barrister, I tend to stick with only car products when detailing, so I never use Dawn soap (I'm man enough to admit that I did use it once, a few years back, just to give it a try)... a clay bar, after a proper wash of course, will remove most of the wax on the paint, from my experience, and polishing will remove it 100%... what I've been doing for a while now is using Klasse AIO with a red or black LC pad, PC or rotary, right after claying to ensure I start polishing on a wax-free surface.

As for using the FLex, you definitely don't want to use it weekly, even monthly... you're probably best off doing a good correction with SIP/orange and 106ff/white to start with, then a very light correction with 106ff/white every 3-4 months... 106ff/white LC pad will get rid of all light swirls on a Porsche, considering the paint is as soft as all the Porsches I've ever detailed and heard others detailing haha. Basically make sure you do a good detail in the spring and fall, and protect it very well in the fall, then 1-2 light polishings in between.

As for Zaino, I've heard good things about it, and tried it only once, but to me it was just a regular good, quality product at a much bigger price... for that reason I simply chose to stay away and use other products, which cost much much less, such as Meguiar's GC wash, and Klasse SG, and also work just as well or better. Which brings me to my next point... Klasse SG is my favorite product of all, simply because I've seen what it can do in terms of durability in a Chicago winter, and summer, and also it looks good for a sealant product... so if you want to try something else, I'd suggest giving that a shot... I can even send you a small 4oz. sample (should be enough for at least 1.5-2 coats) since I have about 150oz.+ of the stuff sitting around

 

Thanks Barrister. I must admit I never emailed Sal, good to know that.
I am familiar with the Dawn wash though. I have done it before my first layers of Zaino every time.

I have also tried my fair share of consumer level and some prosumer stuff.
IMO Zaino gives good results and lasts a very long time and for my schedule that is more important than the best possible looks on the market. I have seen better with true high quality waxes, but again, I'm looking for longevity really.
That and the fact that since my car is a DD, there isn't that much of a point in keeping it showcar clean at all times. Rain tends to ruin a whole weekend of effort. So my plan is more geared towards protection with good looks. So in that regard I'm definitely not married to Zaino, but am very pleased with how it handles what I need.

I will probably move onto Zymol or Swissvax products later in life when I get to play with some big boy toys, but now I gotta work my butt off to get there.

I'm taking my car to my detailing guy to get the swirls taken out, it's hardly noticeable really as my car is a light slate blue, but I'd like the best surface possible to start the Zaino layering. Thats why I was curious if you were sticking with the Zaino or trying some newer products.
Anyways, hope you enjoy the Flex. Do post up some reviews and pictures, I'd love to see the results you get.
Happy detailing and good luck to you as well.


Haha, like I said, no worries. I did kind of set myself up to look kinda dumb.
I can imagine about the clay comment though, most people have very little understanding of detailing past a simple wash and wax.

I'm the kind of person that likes to learn as much as possible about anything I do myself, which is another reason I love this forum for all the stuff you can learn from all you pros.

 

Sent a PM, never heard back??

 

Sorry dude...I must have missed that. Here's a link and you can order direct:

http://www.glisteningperfectionstore...its/Categories

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