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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 01:31 AM
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ONR for paint prep and rust on rotors after washing

Alright,

I've done my homework, did a couple of mini details, but I am left with 2 questions:

1. Can I use ONR to for paint prep.? my washing place is about 5 car min away from my polishing place and I would like to do a quick follow up with onr to ensure I have a clean surface when starting to polish now I have read that ONR leaves some kind of protection of its own and I am not sure if i can start polishing after!?

2. When I give my car a wash I am left with rusty rotors, rust coming out of the holes, now after I brake the rust "splashes" onto the inside of the rims. What can I do to prevent that?

Your help is appreciated.
 
Old Oct 21, 2011 | 02:17 AM
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1. Can I use ONR to for paint prep.? my washing place is about 5 car min away from my polishing place and I would like to do a quick follow up with onr to ensure I have a clean surface when starting to polish now I have read that ONR leaves some kind of protection of its own and I am not sure if i can start polishing after!?

Onr could be used to prep (wash) a vehicle; use isopropyl alcohol (IPA) to remove ONR protection

2. When I give my car a wash I am left with rusty rotors, rust coming out of the holes, now after I brake the rust "splashes" onto the inside of the rims. What can I do to prevent that?

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Originally Posted by JonasJordan1
Alright,

I've done my homework, did a couple of mini details, but I am left with 2 questions:

1. Can I use ONR to for paint prep.? my washing place is about 5 car min away from my polishing place and I would like to do a quick follow up with onr to ensure I have a clean surface when starting to polish now I have read that ONR leaves some kind of protection of its own and I am not sure if i can start polishing after!?

2. When I give my car a wash I am left with rusty rotors, rust coming out of the holes, now after I brake the rust "splashes" onto the inside of the rims. What can I do to prevent that?

Your help is appreciated.
1. If you're polishing, I would not drive it after the wash. There are so many small dirt particles that can be in the tightest spot that can get trapped in your pad when polishing, that it's not worth the risk. I would figure out a way to wash, immediately dry and clay, then polish and wax.

2. Changing the rotors as Jon suggested will help. But, another factor will be the pads. Most pads are semi-mettalic and it's those particles that trap in the veins and holes of the rotors and slosh out after the wash. Best thing is to really flush the caliper and rotor with water until it's clear water running out. This usually takes about 5-10 seconds when we're cleaning the wheels.

Great questions
 
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Thanks for the answers. I really appreciate it!

@TOGWT: How does alcohol wipe-down look like? I dilute to 30% alcohol with distilled water spray it on the car an and wipe it of with a mf towel!?
Can I strip wax with ONR?


@Moe: As I really don't seem to have a chance to polish where I wash I was planing to wash, then drive 5 min, the "wash" again with ONR in the Garage where I will be polishing, then (as I learned now) do an alcohol wipe-down to remove protection of ONR, then start polishing, do you see any issue with that?


@both: I guess if I would like to clay in the garage as well I would do the following: drive, ONR, alcohol wipe-down, clay, alcohol wipe-down, polish or do I wash off the clay lube with ONR before a alcohol wipe-down.

PS: I suppose I am better off claying after the wash then wash again regular and then drive to the polishing sport to to a quick ONR - alcohol wipedown to get ready for polishing?



Thank you again
 
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@TOGWT: How does alcohol wipe-down look like? I dilute to 30% alcohol with distilled water spray it on the car an and wipe it of with a mf towel!?

The usual dilution ratio for isopropyl alcohol is 1:10 IPA/Distilled water, spray on to the paint surface and then wipe with a towel
Can I strip wax with ONR?

Yes but ONR does leave a limited polymer protection


@Moe: As I really don't seem to have a chance to polish where I wash I was planing to wash, then drive 5 min, the "wash" again with ONR in the Garage where I will be polishing, then (as I learned now) do an alcohol wipe-down to remove protection of ONR, then start polishing, do you see any issue with that?

@both: I guess if I would like to clay in the garage as well I would do the following: drive, ONR, alcohol wipe-down, clay, alcohol wipe-down, polish or do I wash off the clay lube with ONR before a alcohol wipe-down.


1. ONR
2. Clay
3. Polish
4. Wipe down
5. Apply paint protection

Wipedown Process - http://www.autopia.org/forum/guide-d...ml#post1454298


 
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Thank you for the answers. I will study the writeup on wipedown
Just so I get it right.

I can clay despite of the onr protection? We don't need to wash or IPA wipedown after claying (wiping of the clay lube is enough) before starting to polish.

And thanks again for your time. I guess I will have to show some results soon

edit (ad): In your write up it says to dilute either 1:10 or 1:25 (10% or 25%) depending on how dense the clear-coat is. Now 25% should represent a 1:3 dilution and 10% 1:9. Which is the correct number? the % or the parts?

For less dense (soft) clear coat, the lower rate of isopropyl alcohol dilution (1:10) is recommended; conversely denser (hard) clear coats should use a higher dilution (1:25); as you increase the dilution rate of isopropyl alcohol its paint softening effect drops exponentially.
I assume you swapped the numbers and words here!? Softer clearcoat needs a higher dilution (1:25) (less aggressive) and denser one a more aggressive 1:10 dilution?

I hope I am not mixing things up here :-)
 

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For less dense (soft) clear coat, the lower rate of isopropyl alcohol dilution (1:10) is recommended; conversely denser (hard) clear coats should use a higher dilution (1:25); as you increase the dilution rate of isopropyl alcohol its paint softening effect drops exponentially.

I assume you swapped the numbers and words here!? Softer clearcoat needs a higher dilution (1:25) (less aggressive) and denser one a more aggressive 1:10 dilution?

I need to fire my proofreader


 

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