what is considered over polishing?
what is considered over polishing?
Every time the car is polished, I assume a fine layer of the clearcoat is removed. So eventually it would seem that one could completely go through the entire clear coat after enough detail/polishing sessions. Is this something to worry about or is the clearcoat thick enough to widthstand all of the routine polishing sessions done throughout the life of the car?
also is there any way to visibly tell that the clearcoat is starting to thin out? Or is a paint meter the only way?
also is there any way to visibly tell that the clearcoat is starting to thin out? Or is a paint meter the only way?
Last edited by kayman; Apr 15, 2007 at 10:04 PM.
You're absolutely correct about your assumption. Over time, depending on product and technique used, you will eventually wear down the clear. This is why I don't suggest polishing even with a porter cable more than once a year. It's my belief that a car shouldn't ever need machine polishing. I have a handfull of clients that have p-cars that look absolutely amazing because between the client and myself, no one else has touched the car; not even the dealer. Cars like that will never need polishing. If your car has been mistreated, then a good polishing will do the trick. After that, it's up to you to care for it. The light swirls and spiderwebbing will always be there from washing and wiping down. This is why one should be realistic and use good, natural eco-friendly products to "fill" the imperfections. This is just my philosophy. I've always been a eco-friendly detailer and it seems now is a great time to share my ways to those that will hopefully appreciate it. I don't want to get philosophical, but the earth and our future is precious enough to demand this level of care.
Don't machine polish. If you need to get gunk out of the surface..use a clay bar. Don't go crazy with washing it even with car wash soap every weekend. Try lots of clean water. You only need car wash soap once a month at most.
Why "fill" when you can polish and be happy? A little Menzerna FPII with a red or black pad will give you 3-4 months of completely swirl free bliss on a black car. With the right products and the right technique, I don't believe you can overpolish through the clear. As Moe stated, "depending on product and technique used," you could wear the clear coat but even with 500+ polishes, it would be hard to burn through clear if it's done right.
Last edited by 2thfixr; Apr 17, 2007 at 05:11 AM.
Originally Posted by Duane996tt
Don't machine polish. If you need to get gunk out of the surface..use a clay bar. Don't go crazy with washing it even with car wash soap every weekend. Try lots of clean water. You only need car wash soap once a month at most.
Originally Posted by 2thfixr
Why "fill" when you can polish and be happy? A little Menzerna FPII with a red or black pad will give you 3-4 months of completely swirl free bliss on a black car. With the right products and the right technique, I don't believe you can overpolish through the clear. As Moe stated, "depending on product and technique used," you could wear the clear coat but even with 500+ polishes, it would be hard to burn through clear if it's done right.
Originally Posted by MoeMistry
If using a porter cable and a light polish like FP or FPII, it will take a long time to wear down the clear to the bare paint. However, one must examine the cause and not the effect. If you are forced to polish every 3-4 months, you must examine why. If you have a good wash and wipe technique, use high quality towels, you shouldn't need to polish by machine. The micro swirls would be so minimal, that polishing and waxing by hand will get you results like polishing by using a machine. Remember, steps like claying also reduces the thickness of the finish. Add the claying, machine polishing, hand polishing, weekly or monthly washes, etc. and you can imagine the overall affect. IMHO, a proper wash routine, using DI water, and the occasional polishing and waxing, will yield you greater results. I like to tell my clients that you are the care taker of the current P-car, or any other exotic. For example, one of my dream cars is a 997 GT3; I cannot afford one now but in a few years I will have the means. It would be great to find a well-maintained GT3 that someone took great care of. The current owner should be caring for it so these magnificent cars can be passed down for many decades with integrity and respect.
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