Ferraris still untouchable
#16
Lamborghini of Chicago sent me an email asking if I was interested in a 458 black with tan so they are available. To be candid, twice my wife and I tried to buy a F430 from the local (Tampa) dealer and twice were turned off by their total lack of interest even though both times we were looking a specific cars on the showroom floor. We currently have two 997 Porsches and just ordered a Cayenne as we need the ability to car things home from the store but the local Porsche dealer treats us like royalty.
I wish that all existing salesmen spontaneously combusted into a bright star burning above to signify the next generation of knowledgable salesmen arriving that actually KNOW their job, and treat people with respect.
Probably one of the reasons why I enjoyed my purchase so much - the salesmen weren't allowed to talk to me about my car.
#17
Liking or disliking a salesman does not compensate for dramatic changes in price (increased), lack of response to phone calls, no follow-up to questions, etc. - just plain cavalier attitude. I can call the Porsche dealer and they would have a car for me to test drive with my wife at my house in an hour. If I wanted something special, they would get me an answer immediately and when it needed service, they sent a trailer to the house at no charge for warrantee work - on the trailer was a new VW CC for us to use while the Turbo was in the shop overnight. I could just imagine getting service from the Tampa Ferrari store.
#18
Liking or disliking a salesman does not compensate for dramatic changes in price (increased), lack of response to phone calls, no follow-up to questions, etc. - just plain cavalier attitude. I can call the Porsche dealer and they would have a car for me to test drive with my wife at my house in an hour. If I wanted something special, they would get me an answer immediately and when it needed service, they sent a trailer to the house at no charge for warrantee work - on the trailer was a new VW CC for us to use while the Turbo was in the shop overnight. I could just imagine getting service from the Tampa Ferrari store.
One of the reasons I probably have never had a negative experience about this is - because I never asked a salesmen questions I don't already the answer to, and I never call and leave a message for anybody with the expectation of a return phone call. Usually, I just appear when it's convenient for me.
As far as changing the price. I'm out. There is always another dealer willing to sell it for less. Unfortunately, in that particular market, these dealerships aren't always down the street from one another, and may require a few minutes on the internet looking up another location, and perhaps some long distance negotiations (also not a fan, because I'd be talking to a salesman).
#19
It just is crummy getting all worked up about a particular car at a particular price and agreeing to the trade-in just to be ignored and have the price jacked up after you already have considered the financing, insurance, etc. The closest dealer to Tampa is in Orlando and both are the same company. Otherwise, the East Coast is the next closest and I am looking at 250 miles.
#20
****ty sales people make the good ones stand out
I could give two sh*ts about their perceived 'attitude' when it comes to buying my car. Salesmen are worthless - in all trades. Perhaps, in this dealership, they were no longer in denial?
I wish that all existing salesmen spontaneously combusted into a bright star burning above to signify the next generation of knowledgable salesmen arriving that actually KNOW their job, and treat people with respect.
Probably one of the reasons why I enjoyed my purchase so much - the salesmen weren't allowed to talk to me about my car.
I wish that all existing salesmen spontaneously combusted into a bright star burning above to signify the next generation of knowledgable salesmen arriving that actually KNOW their job, and treat people with respect.
Probably one of the reasons why I enjoyed my purchase so much - the salesmen weren't allowed to talk to me about my car.
#21
I'm not sure how much a mid-range Lexus sells for in your neck of the woods, but last time I checked (which was recently since I just looked at buying a 360 or 430), you're looking at about $100k+ for a 360 and $130k+ for a 430.
You can find a few 360s for under $100k in the $85k price range at the least. Still not a mid-range Lexus.
You can find a few 360s for under $100k in the $85k price range at the least. Still not a mid-range Lexus.
I'm not sure where your looking but in califonia between the bay and la there ae lots of them. I mean come on. MSRP on a 360 in 99 was 135-160k. 07 E60 M5's were 110k when new. Now there in the high 30's. Which they aren't a collector car but they are also a lot newer and have depriated faster. So if you try to play the numbers game with depriation % over yrs. Its about right. Everyone will of course list the car high but they do sell in the high 50's
#22
jasper
i find your comment very offense
i use to be a car salesman for about 5 years. i went from audi to selling exotics.
i was an honest salesperson, as were the people i worked with. we treated customers with respect.
i wish i would have met you when you purchased your car, so that i could rape you blindly with the biggest grin on my face, and trust me it would have happened.
sales people are hard working folks who put up with ignorant people like you. i see your type occasionally, and honestly i pity you.
i find your comment very offense
i use to be a car salesman for about 5 years. i went from audi to selling exotics.
i was an honest salesperson, as were the people i worked with. we treated customers with respect.
i wish i would have met you when you purchased your car, so that i could rape you blindly with the biggest grin on my face, and trust me it would have happened.
sales people are hard working folks who put up with ignorant people like you. i see your type occasionally, and honestly i pity you.
#23
Its kinda of funny to complain about him being offensive
jasper
i find your comment very offense
i use to be a car salesman for about 5 years. i went from audi to selling exotics.
i was an honest salesperson, as were the people i worked with. we treated customers with respect.
i wish i would have met you when you purchased your car, so that i could rape you blindly with the biggest grin on my face, and trust me it would have happened.
sales people are hard working folks who put up with ignorant people like you. i see your type occasionally, and honestly i pity you.
i find your comment very offense
i use to be a car salesman for about 5 years. i went from audi to selling exotics.
i was an honest salesperson, as were the people i worked with. we treated customers with respect.
i wish i would have met you when you purchased your car, so that i could rape you blindly with the biggest grin on my face, and trust me it would have happened.
sales people are hard working folks who put up with ignorant people like you. i see your type occasionally, and honestly i pity you.
Rant over
#24
jasper
i find your comment very offense
i use to be a car salesman for about 5 years. i went from audi to selling exotics.
i was an honest salesperson, as were the people i worked with. we treated customers with respect.
i wish i would have met you when you purchased your car, so that i could rape you blindly with the biggest grin on my face, and trust me it would have happened.
sales people are hard working folks who put up with ignorant people like you. i see your type occasionally, and honestly i pity you.
i find your comment very offense
i use to be a car salesman for about 5 years. i went from audi to selling exotics.
i was an honest salesperson, as were the people i worked with. we treated customers with respect.
i wish i would have met you when you purchased your car, so that i could rape you blindly with the biggest grin on my face, and trust me it would have happened.
sales people are hard working folks who put up with ignorant people like you. i see your type occasionally, and honestly i pity you.
WOW! I couldn't have said it any better myself.
Thanks. You proved my point. Keep up the good work.
If I provide you an opportunity do so, I deserve it. This is the difference between an informed customer, and somebody who trusts salesmen.
Don't get me wrong. There is your 10% in every industry, every profession.
* edit: tourbillion - Classic! Your "competition makes your job easier..."
Last edited by jaspergtr; 07-24-2010 at 08:13 PM.
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